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ILLINOIS

POLLUTION CONTROL

BOARD

NOVEMBER

12,

2009

THE

ILLINOIS

ENVIRONMENTAL

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PROTECTION

AGENCY,

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STATE

ollution

Contro’

LUNOi

Board

Complainant,

No.

0827

HIRAM

VANDERHEIDEN

JUNIOR,

Respondent.

REPORT

OF PROCEEDINGS

the

hearing

the

above-entitled

cause

before

the

Carol

Webb,

Hearing

Officer,

taken

before

Rebecca

Graziano,

Certified

Shorthand

Reporter

within

and

for

the

County

Mason

and

State

Illinois,

the

Mason

County

Courthouse,

County

Board

Room,

Havana,

Illinois,

commencing

the

hour

10:00,

the

12th

day

November, A.D.,

2009.

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APPEARANCES

ILLINOIS POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD

Ms. Carol Webb

ILLINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL

PROTECTION

AGENCY

Ms. Michelle

Ryan

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assistant

attorney

general

for

the

Illinois

EPA.

MS.

WEBB:

And

Mr.

Vanderheiden,

you

are here

representing

yourself.

that

correct?

MR. VANDERHEIDEN:

Yes,

ma’am.

MS.

WEBB:

Okay.

Thank

you.

Ms.

Ryan,

would

you

care

to make

any

opening

statement?

MS.

RYAN:

Yes.

We believe

that the

evidence

will

show

February

7th,

2008,

open

dumping

resulting

in litter,

open

burning

the

deposition

general

or clean

construction

demolition

debris

occurred

the Vanderheiden

property

in Manito,

and that

there

are

no legal

defenses

to this

activity.

MS.

WEBB:

Okay.

Mr. Vanderheiden,

would

you

make

any

opening

statement?

You

don’t

have

to.

MR.

VANDERHEIDEN:

The

name

the

town

Manito.

MS.

WEBB:

Manito.

MR.

VANDERHEIDEN:

Just

letting

you

know.

MS.

WEBB:

Thank

you.

MR. VANDERHEIDEN:

Nothing.

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MS.

WEBB:

Ms. Ryan,

you

may call

your

first

witness.

MS.

RYAN:

I call

Paul

Eisenbrandt.

MS.

WEBB:

Would

the court

reporter

please

swear

the witness?

(Witness

sworn.)

DIRECT

EXAMINATION

MS.

RYAN:

Can you

state

your

name

again

and

spell

the

last name

for

the court

reporter,

please?

Paul Eisenbrandt,

E—i-s-e-n--b-r--a-n-d-t.

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is your

job?

I am an

Illinois

EPA

inspector,

investigator,

and

geologist.

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what

office

you

work

out

of?

The

Springfield

regional

office.

How many

years

have

you been

field

inspector

for

Illinois

EPA?

Approximately

five

years.

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what

duties

you

have

as a

field

inspector?

out

and

inspect

open

dumping

complaints,

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do you

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Not

front of me.

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Hiram

Vanderheiden Junior.

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conducted

this property?

believe four or five inspections.

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show

you

what I’ve

marked

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you tell me if

you

recognize

this

document?

Yes, I recognize this

document.

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it?

This

is an inspection report for

the

inspection of February 7th, 2008.

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third

inspection that took

place

the Vanderheiden

residence -- or

Vanderheiden property.

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I did.

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you page

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me,

please,

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pages

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MS.

WEBB:

Okay.

Mr.

Vanderheiden,

you

will

have

chance

present

your

own

defense,

but

right

now

I’ll

just

ask

you

have

any

questions

for

this

witness

about

anything

just

testified

to.

MR.

VANDERHEIDEN:

Nope.

MS.

WEBB:

Okay.

MR.

VANDERHEIDEN:

don’t

think

so.

MS.

WEBB:

Ms.

Ryan,

you

have

anything

further

you’d

MS. RYAN:

not.

Thank

you.

MS.

WEBB:

Okay.

Mr.

Vanderheiden,

you

may

make

statement

your

own

defense,

but

first

will

ask

the

court

reporter

please

swear

you

in.

(Witness

sworn.)

MR.

VANDERHEIDEN:

Well,

mean,

the

pictures

tell

all,

and

I’m

not

going

deny

anything

about

it.

mean,

I’m

not

going

sit

here

and

argue

with

you

over

anything.

have

cleaned

now,

that’s

all

can

say.

Not

totally.

don’t

know

who

I’ve

talked

Page

f and

on. I

don’t keep

track of

anybody I

talk

any

phone.

I’m

a terrible

procrastinator.

I’m

terrible

about

getting

rid of anything.

have

cleaned

up a

lot.

Not

enough,

means.

But,

mean,

there’s

a lot of

things

he -- I mean,

he’s

picked

out

everything,

and

you

can

see it in the

pictures

everything

that’s in

yard and on

property.

The house

is in

better shape

than

it was when

he’s taken

these

pictures.

It’s

time. I’m

in my ——

like I said,

I’m

terrible

procrastinator.

really

have nothing

else

to say

for

now

MS.

WEBB:

Ms.

Ryan,

do you have

any

questions for

——

MS.

RYAN:

just

have

one

question.

DIRECT

EXAMINATION

BY MS.

RYAN:

This

property

that we’re

talking

about

where the

photographs

came from,

that is

located

510 North

Park

Avenue?

Right.

Manito,

correct?

Right.

Page

Okay.

Thank

you.

MS.

WEBB:

Okay.

Let’s

off the

record

for

moment

discuss

briefing

schedule.

(Whereupon,

discussion

was

had

off

the record.)

MS.

WEBB:

The transcript of

these

proceedings

will

available

from

the court

reporter

by November

24th

and

will be

posted

the

Board’s

website.

The

public

comment

deadline

November

30th.

The

public

comment

must

filed

accordance

with

Section

101.628

of the

Board’s

procedural

rules.

The

complainant’s

brief

due

December

15th,

and respondent’s

brief

due

January

11th.

Ms.

Ryan,

would

you

make

any

closing

argument?

MS.

RYAN:

No, I

would

reserve

that

for

my brief.

MS.

WEBB:

Mr. Vanderheiden,

would

you

like to

make

any closing

statement?

MR.

VANDERHEIDEN:

No.

MS.

WEBB:

Okay.

Again,

will note

that

there

are no

members

the public

present,

and

we will

now adjourn.

I thank

everyone

for

their

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STATE OF’

ILLINOIS

COUNTY OF’ COOK

REBECCA

A. GRAZIANO,

being

first

duly sworn

oath

says

that

she is

court

reporter

doing business

in the

City of Chicago;

that she

reported

shorthand

the

proceedings

given

the

taking

of said hearing

and that

the foregoing

true

and correct

transcript

of her

shorthand

notes

taken

aforesaid

and

contains all

the

proceedings given

said hearing.

REBECCA A.

GRAZIANO,

CSR

South LaSalle

Street, Suite

850

Chicago, Illinois

60603

License No.

084—004659

SUBSCRIBED AND

SOIN

before

me this [/ffl/c%?day

A.D.,

2009.

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11:16

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21:4,5,6,12

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20:19,22

talking27:19

tires 18:24

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18:3

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22:12

waste 9:8,21

wintertime

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45 23:12

town4:19

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11:7,9,9

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16:4,20

22:9,14

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15 14:15,18

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watercraft

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8:23

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17:2

9:15 18:22

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units 11:23

way 9:20

19:16,24

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17:4,6,9,13

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21:17

24:12

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22:5

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4:2,5,15,20

4:235:1,4

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30:20

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25:2326:2

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26:8,10,13

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2317:18

transcript

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27:1328:2

2418:1,7

28:6 30:10

4:4,12,15

28:6,19,22

24th28:8

85030:16

tree

11:21

4:18,21,24

website28:9

yard 11:22

25 18:8

13:524:4

6:21 7:6,17

weed23:23

12:21 14:14

26 18:16

trees 18:22

7:18

11:6

weedy23:23

2L1925:5

2719:1,7

18:22 19:2

15:2 17:10

wellhl:2

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27th25:12

19:17,20

24:1925:8

13:2426:18

year6:18

2819:5

21:1522:10

26:2,7,9,13

were9:16

years5:18,20

2919:13

22:15 25:1

26:18 28:19

12:13

18:24

6:3

30:16

truck 17:4,9

28:21

21:1 22:20

yellow 22:8

17:10,12,19

vegetation

west 14:19