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ILLINOIS POLLUTION

CONTROl

NOIS

NOVEMBER

2009

BOard

IN THE

MATTER

OF:

WATER

QUALITY

STANDARDS

AND

EFFLUENT

LIMITATIONS

FOR THE

)

R08-9

CHICAGO AREA

WATERWAY SYSTEM

AND

)

(Rulemaking

THE LOWER

DES PLAINES

RIVER:

)

Water)

PROPOSED

AMENDMENTS

TO 35 Ill.

Adm. Code Parts

301, 302,

303

and 304

REPORT

OF PROCEEDINGS

the hearing

the

above—entitled

cause before Hearing

Officer

Marie

Tipsord,

taken

before Rebecca

A. Graziano,

Certified

Shorthand

Reporter

within and for

the County

of Cook

and

State

Illinois,

at the Bilandic

Building,

Room N-502,

Chicago,

Illinois,

commencing

at the

hour of 9:00

a.m. on the

9th

day

of November,

A.D.,

2009.

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APPEARANCES

ILLINOIS

POLLUTION

CONTROL

BOARD:

Ms.

Marie

Tipsord,

Hearing

Officer

Ms. Alisa

Liu,

P.E.,

Environmental

Scientist

Mr.

Anand

Rao,

Senior

Environmental

Scientist

Mr.

Tanner

Girard,

Acting

Chairman

Mr.

Shundar

Lin

Mr.

Thomas

Johnson

Ms.

Andrea

Moore

ILLINOIS

ENVIRONMENTAL

PROTECTION

AGENCY:

Ms.

Stefanie

Diers

Ms.

Deborah

Williams

ENVIRONMENTAL

LAW

AND

POLICY

CENTER,

33 East

Wacker

Drive

Suite

1300

Chicago,

Illinois

60601

(312)

795—3707

BY:

MR. ALBERT

ETTINGER

MS.

JESSICA

DEXTER

Appeared

behalf

of ELPC,

Prairie

Rivers

Network,

and

Sierra

Club,

FRANZETTI

LAW

FIRM

P.C.

South LaSalle

Street

Suite

3600

Chicago,

IL 60603

(312)

251—5590

BY:

MS.

SUSAN

FRANZETTI

Appeared

behalf

of the

Midwest

Generation,

L.L.C.,

Page

APPEARANCES

MAYER

BROWN

LLP

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MS.

TIPSORD:

Thank

you.

Anything

else

from

anybody

before

start

with the

witnesses?

Okay.

Ms.

Franzetti?

MS. FRANZETTI:

Thank

you.

are

ready

for

the

questions.

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not

doing

any

opening

statements.

MS.

TIPSORD:

All

right.

Then

let’s

ahead

and

have

the witness

sworn

and

we’ll

admit

her

pre—filed

testimony

exhibit.

(Witness

sworn.)

MS.

TIPSORD:

And

you

have

a copy

her

testimony

for us?

MS. FRANZETTI:

Yes,

but

not

purposefully.

MS. TIPSORD:

You

can

give

a copy

later.

We’ll

just

reserve

the

exhibit

number.

MS. FRANZETTI:

That’s

fine.

MS.

TIPSORD:

If there’s

objection,

we’ll

admit

the pre—filed

testimony

Julia

Wozniak

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364.

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none,

it’s

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364.

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Madam

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Officer,

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ETTINGER:

I’m

Albert

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MS. TIPSORD:

Thank

you.

MR.

ETTINGER:

long

we’re

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to?

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WOZNIAK:

Nine

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complete

sense

to you?

MS. WOZNIAK:

The

numbers

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Commonwealth

Edison,

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and

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know,

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purpose

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ETTINGER:

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just

want

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nine

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eight

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to 29?

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WOZNIAK:

Correct.

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three,

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WOZNIAK:

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Chicago

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operated

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power

demand.

MS.

DIERS:

Has power

demand

gone

over

time?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

I’m

not

sure.

would

say

it’s

pretty

much

the

same.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Maybe,

Counsel,

just

for

clarification,

when

you

say

over

time,

what’s

—-

the

last

ten

years?

MS.

DIERS:

That’s

fine.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

that

what

you

were

assuming?

THE

COURT:

And

also

for

clarification,

assume

you’re

asking

about

power

demand

from

——

MS.

WOZNIAK:

From

this

station

what

understand

that

be.

MS.

DIERS:

That’s

correct.

Question

12,

you

state

on Page

of your

pre—filed

testimony,

“In

1996,

IEPA

did

not

view

the

thermal

discharges

limiting

aquatic

diversity

the

receiving

waters.”

Which

receiving

waters

are

you

referring

this

statement?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

The

Lower

Des

Plaines

River.

downstream

1—55?

MS. WOZNIAK:

Actually,

that

quote

was

taken

directly

from

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96—10

reference,

believe

they

were referring

below

the

1—55

bridge.

MS.

DIERS:

I’m going

strike

Question

13.

Question

14, is

there

anything

the

Agency’s

proposal

the

Board

that

would

impact

the

language

of Midwest

Generation’s

regulatory

relief

the

1—55

bridge?

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Just

point

clarification,

Counsel. What

are you

including

the

word

impact?

Can

you

clarify

that question

just

bit

for

us?

Well,

maybe

can

help.

You

want

the

96—10

standards

will

not with

what

the

Board

does

Is that

what

you

want

-- which

to assume

it?

MS.

DIERS:

Yes.

MS. FRANZETTI:

The

latter?

MS.

DIERS:

Yes.

MS.

ERANZETTI:

That

we would

have

MS.

DIERS:

upstream

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cooling

to the amount

of flow

available in

the waterway

is not an

accurate representation

what’s

occurring in

the waterway

times.

There’s

always

large volume

water

available in

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navigational

pool

dilute

effluent, including

heating

ones.

the

quantity,

water may

not

moving,

but it’s there

nonetheless.

MR.

ETTINGER:

When

we’re looking

the upstream

plants

—— first

of all, Fisk

and

Crawford

-— if there’s

no flow

times, aren’t

you,

effect, taking

the

same

water

out

that

you

-- in

that

you just put

out? Regarding

heat

temperature,

you’re

taking

water

out

the

same

bathtub and

putting

it back in.

MS.

WOZNIAK:

If the flow

remains

low

for long

periods of

time, that

can happen

occasion.

The

flow is changing

constantly

out

there.

Not that we know

what

it is,

but

know

it’s

changing.

MR.

ETTINGER:

And

does

provide --

does

cause

problems for

you

the water

coming

in is hot?

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Counsel,

clarification.

What

do you

mean

problems?

Page

MR.

ETTINGER:

Problems.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

What’s

the

problem?

Operationally?

MR.

ETTINGER:

Yes.

MS.

WOZNIAK: Operationally,

if the

water is

too

warm

the unit

will

not

able

operate

efficiently

their

need

drop

load on

it.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Thank

you.

Now,

looking

Joliet, we

heard that

the low

sometimes

there was

zero. Is

that correct?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

From

the information

from the

Corps

Engineers,

says

goes

zero,

yes.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Okay.

What is the

flow

intake

at Joliet relative

to the

average

flow

the

Lower

Des

Plaines?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

I’m

not sure

I know

what

the average

flow

offhand.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Now,

understand

it,

your

you

don’t

know

what

the flow is

at the

Joliet

plant

—— I’m sorry.

As I

understand

your

testimony,

the intake

at Joliet

total

about

14 hundred

million

gallons per

day?

Page

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Approximately.

MR. ETTINGER:

And I

saw another

number

somewhere here

for 7 and

1325.

Yeah,

this

is on

Page 4.

says Units

7 and 8 are

capable of

producing

approximately

1,000,

a designed

circulated water

flow

rate of

approximately

1325

million

gallons

per

day.

MS. WOZNIAK:

That

number in

testimony

was the

maximum.

What I

gave

you

just

now

was the average.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Oh, okay.

That

explains the

difference.

are —-

I’ve

done

my math

right,

we’ve

got a maximum

flow

based

that number

and the other

number

you

gave

me of

about

17 million

gallons

per

day.

Is that

correct?

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Are

you

adding

the

315

million

gallons

a day

for

Joliet 6?

MR.

ETTINGER:

I’m adding

1325

to 376,

which

is the other

number

that

she gave me.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

In her testimony?

MR.

ETTINGER:

Written

testimony.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Written

testimony?

MR.

ETTINGER:

Correct.

And that

gives me

-— I went

law

school,

math

was

Page

hard

—-

but

think

got

1,700.

that

correct?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

1,400,

isn’t

it?

MR.

ETTINGER:

I’m

doing

the

max.

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Okay,

yes.

1,700

MR.

ETTINGER:

the

max

would

about

1,700,

and

that’s

about

2,600

CES?

MS.

FRANZETTI:

need

calculator,

Counsel.

MR.

ETTINGER:

1.55

times

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Oh,

know

what

the

conversion

is,

just

can’t

head.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Very

well.

Have

you

ever

done

the

conversion?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Yes.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Have

you

ever

looked

what

the

flow

—-

the

intakes

those

plants

compared

the

low

flow

CFS?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

What

low

flow

are

you

referring

to?

MR.

ETTINGER:

Well,

you

told

zero

one

point.

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Well,

that’s

easy

comparison.

MR.

ETTINGER:

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MR.

ETTINGER:

That’s

true.

Are

you

ever actually

causing

backflow

in the

Des

Plaines

River?

MS. WOZNIAK:

I’ve

not

seen

the

whole

river move

backwards.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Does

Midwest

Generation

I think

you

did

say

Midwest

Generation

kept

records

its power

production

those

plants.

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Correct.

MR. ETTINGER:

Rave

you ever

compared

what

the

power production

was

those

plants

under

Midwest

Generation

compared

Commonwealth

Edison

production?

MS. FRANZETTI:

So over

the

entire

time

Corn

Ed ran

versus

ours?

MR.

ETTINGER:

Well,

let’s

go back.

Good

clarification.

When did

Midwest

Generation

take

over this

place?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

December

of 1999.

MR.

ETTINGER:

December

of 1999.

you

compare

the

period

of,

say,

the

‘90s

to the

comparison

since

December

1999, was

Midwest

Generation

running

the

plants

or less

than

Page

Commonwealth

Edison?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

would

say it varies

year-to—year

even

seasonal

basis.

But overall,

I think the

operational

levels are

pretty

consistent.

MR.

ETTINGER: You

participated

in the

heat

demonstration

proceedings

the late ‘80s,

did

you

not?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Yes.

MR.

ETTINGER:

you

recall the

representations

that were

made

Commonwealth

Edison as

the capacity

factor

which those

plants

would

run?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

don’t remember.

MR.

ETTINGER:

you

recall

whether

Commonwealth

Edison

said those

plants were

going

run

increasingly

lower

capacity factor

over

the

coming

years?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

I don’t

recall that.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Does Midwest

Generation

have

plans

to close this,

Crawford,

Will

County, or

Joliet

plants or units

in the

foreseeable

future?

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Do we

have

pre—filed

——

Page

MS.

TIPSORD:

Yeah,

that’s

question

seven.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Oh,

sorry.

I was

still

back

four.

MS. WOZNIAK:

Will

County

Units

1 and

2 are

scheduled

to be

closed

at the

end of

2010,

and

to my

knowledge

there

are

no plans

for

other

unit

closures.

MR. ETTINGER:

Okay.

Number

eight,

should

assume

in this

proceeding that

any capital

cost

putting

supplemental

cooling

equipment

those

plants

can

fully

amortized

over

the

life of

the plants?

MS. WOZNIAK:

I don’t

know

the

answer

that

question.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Number

nine,

does

Midwest

Generation

claim

any station

unit

that

the

pollution

control

equipment

not

justifiable

because

the

plant will

soon close?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Yes.

MR.

ETTINGER:

And which

ones

that?

MS. WOZNIAK:

Will

County

and

MR.

ETTINGER:

But other

than

Will

County

or 2,

we don’t

know

whether

would

Page

MS.

WOZNIAK:

don’t

know.

MR. ETTINGER:

I’ll

skip

ten.

That’s

become

matter

public

record.

Are

you

aware

of any

power

plants

anywhere

that

have been

retrofitted

to add

cooling

capacity,

other

than

the

cooling

towers

built for

Joliet

Unit

7 and

MS.

FRANZETTI:

And

Albert,

can

just

ask

clarification on that?

retrofit,

you

mean

closed-cycle

cooling?

that

what

we’re

supposed

assume?

MR.

ETTINGER:

No.

Actually,

meant

it more

broadly

than

that.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Oh,

okay.

included

in things

helper

cooling

towers

in Joliet?

MR.

ETTINGER:

Any sort

retrofitted

cooling

equipment,

I’m

asking

her

for

her

knowledge.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Okay.

Give me

just

second,

because

I think

interpreted

you

meant

going

closed

site.

MR. ETTINGER:

I don’t

know

why

you

would

that,

since

I said

other

than

7 and

MS.

PRANZETTI:

Not

problem.

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MS.

WOZNIAK:

When I was

employed by

Corn Ed,

know

they had rental

cooling towers for

one or two summers. And

any subsequent cooling that

they

put in afterwards, I mean, I think

was

permanent,

but

that was

after I

stopped

working

there.

MR. ETTINGER:

Basically the cooling

pond is

too

small for

the size plant they’re

operating on?

MS. WOZNIAK:

don’t know for sure.

MS.

TIPSORD: Our voices are falling

off

little

bit. Remember, we’re talking

to the

back of the room, both the

witness and the

questioner. Thank

you.

MR. ETTINGER:

Okay.

I have

another

question here, and this one is

easy. On Page 2,

you

talked

about

Midwest

Gen

an independent tower

producer ——

MS. F’RANZETTI:

Page 2 of her

testimony?

MR.

ETTINGER:

Of her pre—filed

testimony.

MS. PRANZETTI:

Okay.

MR. ETTINGER:

And so I

guess

was

Page

wondering

independent

what?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

It’s

not

considered

utility,

whereby

cannot

pass

its

costs

along

its

customers

the

form

rate

base.

It’s

strictly

wholesale

marketing

power.

MR.

ETTINGER:

It’s

merchant

producer?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Correct.

MR.

ETTINGER:

subsidiary

California

corporation,

isn’t

it?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

is,

but

they

also

have

utility.

are

the

non—utility

piece

that.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Thank

you.

You

mention

Page

that

the

and

now

we’re

back

the

pre—field

question

you

mentioned

on Page

that

the

allowed

mixing

zone

currently

acres.

Are

you

aware

any

study

that

has

determined

whether

the

heat

discharge

from

the

Joliet

station

contains

than

percent

the

cross

sectional

area

volume

of flow

the

Des

Plaines

River?

MS.

TIPSORD:

And

before

you

answer

that,

Albert

you

read

that

percent,

but

the

pre—filed

question

itself

says

percent.

Page

MR. ETTINGER:

I stand

corrected.

Please

answer

my question

though

said

what the

pre—filed

question

asked.

MS.

TIPSORD:

That

one

percent

could

make a

difference.

MR. ETTINGER:

could

make

all

the

difference

in the

world.

fact,

it does.

MS. WOZNIAK:

No,

I’m not

aware

of any

study

that

determined

that.

We did

in-stream

monitoring

in 2002.

The

temperatures

showed

were

not

using

than 25

percent

of the

cross-sectional

area

or volume

flow.

And

recall,

the UIW

studies

done

in support

96-10

showed

similar

results.

MR.

ETTINGER:

And

how

did

you

do that

study?

MS. WOZNIAK:

It was

thermal

monitoring

study

that

did

cross—sectional,

top-to—bottom,

side—to—side

measurements.

MR.

ETTINGER:

And that’s

part

the

UIW

study

that

was done

the

‘90s?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Correct.

And we

did

one

-- and

did

in-stream

monitoring

2002

that

did

similar

work.

Page 46

MR.

ETTINGER:

Now,

you say

that

acres, it

fluctuates. What

do you mean by that?

MS. WOZNIAK:

Depending on the

relative

flow of the

plant and the

flow of the

river, it could

wide, it

could

long and

narrow.

It’s constantly

moving,

because

the

flows

are constantly

changing.

it’s

surface area,

it’s moving.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Okay.

MS.

WOZNIAK:

The

edge is moving,

you

would have

to go out

and

measure it.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Now,

does

six

get

26-acre and seven

and eight

get a 26-acre, or is it

total

26—acre for the two

plants?

MS.

FRANZETTI:

I’ll

just

note

I think

that question is

probably

best put

the Agency.

But what

our understanding --

MR.

ETTINGER:

I can’t —- I’ll

have

-— why not the

second

best? How’s that.

MS. WOZNIAK:

think each station

entitled

to its own 26-acre

mixing zone.

MR. ETTINGER:

Its own 26

acres.

Now,

you reach the 26

acres across

the river,

there’s

not enough river

there, right?

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ETTINGER:

Do we have

that study

the record

anywhere

now?

MS.

FRANZETTI:

It’s not

a study.

It’s in—stream

monitoring

data.

MR.

ETTINGER:

I’m sorry.

Do we have

that -— whatever

is,

we have

it?

MS. FRANZETTI:

I don’t

think it’s

part of the

record.

It’s in

the Agency’s

hands,

but

don’t think they’ve

—-

I don’t think

they’ve

included that

data

in this proceeding.

the

answer

is, Albert,

I don’t

think

so.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Well, why don’t

find

out.

Why

don’t we decide

-- the record

-- although

we’re trying

to set a

record

here, we’ve

definitely

already done

so, and

it’s probably

unbeatable,

sort

of like

Cobb’s

base

stealing

record.

why

don’t

look

it and

decide

whether it belongs

the record,

before

burden

the record

with

them.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Works

for me.

Are

you

going

look

it or am I?

MR. ETTINGER:

Why

don’t we both

look

it.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

I’ll

look

it and

let

you

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MR.

ETTINGER:

far

you

know,

sometimes

increased

temperature

will make

some

pollutants

toxic?

MS. PRANZETTI:

Counsel,

you

need

add

in it

depends

site-specific

conditions.

MS. WOZNIAK:

Temperature

can

also

break

down

toxic

things

quickly.

MR. ETTINGER:

Thank

you.

Would

that

depend

site—specific

conditions?

MS. WOZNIAK:

Yes.

MR.

ETTINGER:

we’ve

never

studied,

your

knowledge,

whether

the

site-specific

conditions

in this

watershed

are

such as

make

heat more

toxic

or less

toxic?

MS. WOZNIAK:

Midwest

Gen

hasn’t.

MR.

ETTINGER:

your

knowledge,

has

anyone?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Not

that

I can

remember

seeing.

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ETTINGER:

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Midwest

Generation

intend

make

any

investments

any of

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plants

on the

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ETTINGER:

In the

broadest

possible

sense, has

your

company ever

made

any

study

what might

be necessary

meet

possible

federal

regulations

regarding

impingement

at the Joliet

plant?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

We have

monitored

impingement,

and we

are getting

ready

to do some

additional

study.

But

because the

316-B

was

being

suspended and

is in limbo

until

the

Agency

comes

with the

new

rule

and

don’t know

what’s going

the

new rule,

we have

not done anything

further

than

that.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Thank

you

very much.

To your

knowledge,

does

heat

discharge

the

Joliet

plant attract

fish

come

from below

the 1—55

bridge

during

the winter?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

I’m

not aware

any

data

that would

support

that

theory.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Have

you ever

looked?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

do annual fish

monitoring

during

the summer

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but

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ETTINGER:

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delta

north

of the

1—55

bridge?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

From

what

recall,

that

area

very

shallow,

the

connection

between

the

DuPage

and

the

Lower

Des Plaines.

don’t

know

what

kind of

fish

would

be able

back

and

forth.

would

defer

the

experts

that.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Okay.

Are

you

aware

any

fish

kills

caused

heat discharges

from

the

Dresden,

Fisk, Crawford,

Will

County,

or Joliet

plants?

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Just

for

the

record,

same

objection

with

respect

including

the

Dresden

plant

that.

But the

witness

can

answer.

MS.

WOZNIAK:

I don’t

know

any.

I’ve

not

heard

of any

fish

kills

from

any

of those.

can’t

speak

for

Dresden

within

the past

ten

years.

But

other

than

that,

no.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Are

you

specifically,

are

you

aware

of any

fish kills

at the

Joliet

plant

any

time?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

don’t

recall

anything

specifically

Joliet’s

operations

fish

kills.

MR. ETTINGER:

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admitting it

to the

record.

Mr.

Ettinger

wants

call

witness

provide

foundation

for it

and tie it

how

it’s

somehow

this

proceeding,

can

see

it being

brought in.

But without

any

foundation,

how

is the

Board

supposed

to assess

any

credibility

for this

document,

and

what -- even

it was being

-— even

if it

was

being

marked

exhibit

for

purposes

asking the

witness

question,

that would

one thing.

But

here

we’ve

just got a

letter

being thrown

into

the

record

that

has no

foundation

attached

it.

MS.

TIPSORD:

understand

your

objection,

and

were

this

contested

case, it

would

be a

little

different

situation.

This

rulemaking

proceeding.

It’s

arguably

relevant,

because

he did

ask her

if she

had

any idea

about

fish kills.

This

a letter

that

seems

claim

there

was

fish

kill in

Joliet in

1988.

Certainly,

the

Board

-- it’s

not

testimony.

is an exhibit

the proceeding,

and

the Board

can take

it for

-- and,

you know, I

think

admitting

exhibit

acceptable.

MR.

ETTINGER:

And I would

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you

were given

Exhibit

1, there are

series

forms,

and I’m

just ——

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Albert,

why don’t

you

give

the

title

of the

document

just so

it’s clear

what

we’re talking

about.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Okay.

Well,

one

them

is National

Pollutant

Discharge

Elimination

System document,

permit

number

Illinois

0002208,

and

it’s

for the

monitoring

period of

2003, July 1,

2003 of

July 31.

MS. FRANZETTI:

Okay.

Wait,

Albert.

We’re in

the wrong

spot then.

We’re in

the

last

four

pages

but

in 1999.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Mine is

double

sided.

Maybe

it’s

the 8th

page. There’s

one after

that,

which

is ‘99.

MS. FRANZETTI:

Okay, wait.

MS.

TIPSORD:

For the record,

we’re

talking

about

the

exhibit

the

pre-filed

questions.

MR. ETTINGER:

Yes, these are

exhibits

the

pre—filed

questions.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Albert,

I’m

sorry.

Did you

say

July 2003?

Page

MR.

ETTINGER:

I’m

sorry.

I meant

August.

No,

it’s

‘03

July.

MS.

PRANZETTI:

We’re

here.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Okay.

this

document

that’s

filed

—-

the

type

document

that’s

filed

the

Midwest

Generation

Company?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Yes.

It’s

Will

County

station

discharge

monitoring

report.

MR.

ETTINGER:

And

shows

that

does

show

the

intake

temperatures

Will

County

anywhere?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Yeah.

don’t

think

intakes

are

required

reported

these.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Okay.

Going

now

the

document,

which

Midwest

Generation Will

County

station,

this

July

24,

2000,

document.

This

——

I’m

sorry.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Albert,

don’t

think

we’re

with

you.

MR.

ETTINGER:

I’m

sorry.

You’re

right.

was

received

-—

it’s

stamped

the

top,

received

January

24th,

2000.

But

it’s

actually

from

December

December 31,

1999.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

We’re

the

same

page

Page 73

as you are.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Right.

Is this

the

sort

document

that

was filed

Midwest

Generation?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

It’s

also

a discharge

monitoring

report,

yes.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Yes.

Okay.

This

for Will

County?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

That’s what

says,

yes.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Right.

We have

the

intake

temperature

here.

You

have

minimum, an

average,

and

a maximum.

Would those

-- for the

intake

temperature,

was there an

effort

made

for

that

intake

temperature

to avoid any

heat

influences

the

discharge?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

I don’t --

MS.

FRANZETTI:

I’m

just going

object

to the form

on the

record.

I’m

not

sure

it’s

clear.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Well,

let me

just

drop

that

then.

To the

best of your

knowledge,

that

the temperature

the ambient

water

above

Will

County

that

time?

right.

MS.

WOZNIAK:

MR.

ETTINGER:

involved in

the preparation

MS. WOZNIAK:

MR.

ETTINGER:

MS.

WOZNIAK:

MR.

ETTINGER:

Yes.

Okay.

Now, are

you

of these documents?

No, I’m not.

Who

would be?

People

the

station.

People

the

station.

Page

MS.

WOZNIAK:

it’s intake

temperature,

it’s the

measurement of the waters

that’s

going into the

plant, not

upstream of the

plant.

MR. ETTINGER:

Okay.

that

would

right

the plant?

MS. WOZNIAK:

Correct.

MR.

ETTINGER: At the intake.

that

would

the

temperature of the water?

MS. WOZNIAK:

Yes.

MR.

ETTINGER:

And presumably,

the

discharge

temperature is these

numbers below?

MS. FRANZETTI:

On the line that

says —— in the row that

district charge

temperature,

correct, Counsel?

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MS.

WILLIAMS:

Okay.

Thank

you.

MR.

DIAMOND:

question

number six,

what

do you mean

when

you state that

the Joliet

cooling

towers,

quote, “Are capable

cooling

approximately

one—third

of Units 7

and 8 total

designed

discharge,”

end

quote.

Why can’t

the

Joliet

cooling

towers

cool more than

this

portion of

the discharge?

MS. WOZNIAK:

Okay.

The total

design

flow of

the Units

7 and

plants is on

the order

1325 MGD, while

the

maximum

design

flow of

the

cooling

towers

about

515

MGD.

that

equates

approximately

one—third

when all

of the

circulating

water

pumps are

operating.

When

Joliet

and 8 aren’t

operating

with all

four

of their pumps,

they

usually

run

with only

three.

The ability

the

cooling

towers

cool

larger

percentage

of the

discharge

is possible,

and that

reaches

approximately

percent of the

discharge

flow with

three pump

operations.

And this

also assumes

that

the

towers are running

at good efficiency.

the dew

point is

too high,

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towers

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do little

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temperature

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to be

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miles

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based

that

it flows

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increments,

that the

projections

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good.

would

say

it’s

accurate

as you’re

going

get.

MS.

WILLIAMS:

Have

you seen

any

information

make

you

question

whether

it is

accurate though?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

No.

I mean,

the

only

thing is -—

I mean,

when

you

get significant

flow

fluctuations

up and down,

the model

needs

to take

those

into

account

to try and

assimilate

them.

Corps

data,

I’ve

seen nothing

that

would lead

believe

it’s

not accurate.

MS.

WILLIAMS:

Thank

you.

MS.

WOZNIAK:

There

isn’t

anything

else

compare

to,

anyway.

MS.

WILLIAMS:

We can move

on.

Thank

you.

MS.

TIPSORD:

Mr.

Diamond?

MR.

DIAMOND:

Thank

you.

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11,

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thermal

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over.

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not

met

the Upper

Dresden

Island

Pool?

MS.

FRANZETTI:

Counselor,

I’m

just

clarifying. You’re

talking

about

the contractor’s

UAA report

and

what

he recommended

MS.

WILLIAMS:

Yes.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

versus

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discussions

that

were held.

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just

—-

MS. WILLIAMS:

ahead.

MS.

WOZNIAK:

comments

were

the

discussion

with

the

biological

subcommittee.

MS.

WILLIAMS:

Okay.

Maybe we

should

specific.

you’re

saying

not

the whole

stakeholder

group,

but

within

the subcommittee

the

stakeholder

group

that

was discussed?

MS. WOZNIAK:

It was

discussed,

but

there

was never

any

demonstration

made

that

time

that

the

Upper

Dresden

Pool

would meet

aquatic

life

use

goals.

MS.

WILLIAMS:

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ultimately

what

does

the UAA

contractor

conclude?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

I believe

the

report

said

that

it could

with

general

use.

MS.

WILLIAMS:

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you.

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That’s

all

I wanted

clarify.

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you.

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just

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clarify

now,

going back

the original

question

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and

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limit

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moment

the

biological

subcommittee

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what

you’re

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the

biological

subcommittee

discussed

habitat

conditions

in the

Upper

Dresden

Island

Pool?

Let me

first

just

take

that part.

MS. WOZNIAK:

Yes.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

And

with

respect

those

discussions,

was

it,

based

your

understanding,

consensus

among

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members

the

biological

subcommittee

that

there

were

limitations

on habitat

that

would

prevent

the

Upper

Dresden

Island

Pool

from

maintaining

the

Clean

Water

Act

aquatic

life goals?

MS. WOZNIAK:

That’s

my understanding.

MS.

TIPSORD:

think

we’re ready

for

you

again,

Mr. Diamond.

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ETTINGER:

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me.

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WOZNIAK:

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more.

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ahead.

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ETTINGER:

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you

done

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that

answer?

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FRANZETTI:

you

want

keep

going?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Yeah.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Sorry.

MS.

FRANZETTI:

All

right.

Hold,

Albert.

MS.

WOZNIAK:

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MS.

FRANZETTI:

Albert,

what do you --

MS.

TIPSORD:

Just a second.

Tom

could not

hear

you at

all.

MR.

DIAMOND:

Could the

court reporter

just

read it

back? I

just could not hear the

question.

(Whereupon, the

record was read

requested.)

MS.

FRANZETTI:

And, Counsel,

I was

just

asking what

-- how

do you define significant

for

purposes of that

question? Anybody -- any

industrial —-

MR. ETTINGER:

Well,

let me drop

that

question.

Is there

anything -— when

you do your

modeling of making

sure

you

reach

compliance with

the

1—55

bridge, is there any

temperature input

below the Joliet plant

that

you

have

take

into

account?

MS. WOZNIAK:

No.

MR.

ETTINGER:

And why is that?

MS.

WOZNIAK: I don

believe there

are any

heat inputs between the

Joliet station and

the

1—55

bridge.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Thank

you.

To your

Page

108

knowledge,

did

the

Commonwealth

Edison

company

Midwest

Generation

consider

building

cooling

ponds

any

these

plants?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

I would

say

that

would

impossible

because

there’s

room

for

them.

MR. ETTINGER:

There’s

room

around

the

Joliet

plant

for

any

size?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

Not

anything

that

would

you

any

good.

MR.

ETTINGER:

Thank

you.

MS.

TIPSORD:

Miss

Diers?

MS.

DIERS:

Ms.

Wozniak,

which

model

determines

near

field

mixing

and

the

size

the

mixing

zone?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

have

compliance

matrix

that

use

comply

——

determine

compliance

gauge

compliance with

near

field.

There

isn’t

a model,

per

se.

MS.

DIERS:

Can

you

explain

how

the

matrix

works?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

was

had

meeting

with

Illinois

EPA

back

2001

discuss

that

matrix,

and

uses

river

flows,

intake

temperature,

station

operations,

cooling

tower

Page 109

operations,

and

calculates

where

the

temperature

would

in the

middle

the river.

MS.

DIERS:

Thank

you.

MS. TIPSORD:

Mr.

Diamond,

did

you

have another

follow—up?

MR.

DIAMOND:

Yes.

Ms.

Wozniak,

why

you

believe

there

are

no heat

inputs

the

river

downstream

of the

Joliet

and Joliet

7 and

plants?

MS.

WOZNIAK:

guess

I should

rephrase

that.

There

are

major heat

inputs

that

would

impact

our model.

Studies

were done

when

that

model

was

put

together,

and we

did

some

infrared

studies

show

what

the

heat inputs

were

out

there,

and

there

was nothing

the

magnitude

that

would

need

incorporate

into

our

model.

MR.

DIAMOND:

Thank you.

MS. TIPSORD:

Any

questions

for

Ms.

Wozniak?

Let’s

off the

record

for

just

second.

(Whereupon,

discussion

was had

off the

record.)

MS.

TIPSORD:

Let’s

take

an hour

for

lunch.

We’ll

back

about

an hour.

Thank

you,

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everyone.

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lunch

break was

taken.)

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37:17 44:22

90:22

57:5101:12

around26:2

80:18

43:1344:15

48:1855:23

107:22

application

47:11 57:12

atmosphere

55:4

64:23

56:19

82:7

beyond 42:9

9:14

108:6

86:14

67:570:9

111:19

bias5:17

apply

24:18

artificially

atmospheric

98:5 107:5

began 59:20

99:15

25:5,12

18:7

90:22

75:24

108:22

begin5:10

102:13

50:16

91:19

attached7:24

109:24

8:9

Bilandic

1:14

applying

ascribe 16:1

69:12

backflow

beginning

bio 78:20

105:17

asked5:14

Attachment

38:2

103:14

biological

appointed

45:3 56:7

89:13,21

backwards

behalf 2:15

30:13 84:24

4:2

57:11

63:4

92:8 106:16

38:5

2:20

3:6 8:8

95:11

96:3

approaches

68:19

attainabifity

ballpark

being

6:10

97:4,24

83:3

asking8:7

93:24 94:7

20:15

27:9,16

98:6,8,15

appropriate

23:1341:17

99:1,5

bargel8:14

37:23

58:9

102:1 103:4

37:1849:12

47:157:17

attract58:16

18:15

59:1268:22

bit24:15

50:6

57:22,23

attraction

barrier

12:4

69:5,8,8,11

43:12 96:11

approxima...

63:9,15

59:2

base 44:4

87:20

Board

1:3

19:8,11,18

69:9107:10

August68:6

48:16

102:12

2:24:3,11

20:22 21:20 assemblage

68:11 72:2

based 13:7

111:5

4:11,13

35:1,5,6

29:9

automated

17:8,21

believe 8:4

5:15,16,24

76:18,19

assembly

89:6

20:8

22:19

17:820:6

6:2,14,20

81:5,13,19

104:4

availability

35:13 52:18

24:525:7

21:324:9

April29:22

asserted

5:23 79:23

53:21 64:8

28:9,12

24:18

69:6

aquaticl2:4

68:21

available

78:184:8

42:9,11,14

69:20,22

23:2028:10

assess69:6

5:246:14

88:290:13

57:1566:9

103:10

28:13,20

assessed

13:833:1,5

94:398:13

88:1495:22

Board’s

29:4 47:17

66:15,20

77:5 101:5

100:3

97:3 103:3

19:14

47:22

54:24

assimilate

average

102:23

107:21

body 31:21

55:11,23

88:12

31:2234:16

bashful

109:7

106:8

56:5 84:11

associated

34:1935:10

63:12

belongs

both9:19,23

85:1094:4

20:122:6

73:1376:17

basically

48:17

11:2328:3

94:15,21

85:1886:2

avoid73:15

14:1343:7

belowl4:14

29:1743:13

95:1898:18

90:11

Avoidance

basing57:3

24:528:20

48:21

62:3

102:9

assume23:13

104:6

basis9:515:5

58:1662:15

90:24 100:6

103:16

24:17,20

aware4l:4

27:339:3

63:21,24

101:17

areal:74:5

40:1041:11

42:144:18

59:20,22

64:3,9,12

104:9,18

10:11

19:23

47:4

45:8 47:15

68:24

80:18

74:12

84:12 boundary

44:2145:12

assumed

58:18,24

85:2489:4

106:24

17:16

46:753:11

101:13

65:567:7

90:7101:5

107:17

branchll:22

53:20 63:22

assumes

67:19

103:7

benefitted

32:6

63:24

66:13

81:22

away5l:21

bathtub

63:15

Brandon

67:385:5

assuming

A.D1:16

32:2233:13

best46:16,19

13:1166:13

92:1

23:1126:15

111:20

37:11

49:1662:19

90:292:10

areas 78:5

50:19 55:24

a.m 1:16

bears 77:10

62:22,23

break 31:9

86:24

assumption

100:22

become

65:4 73:22

54:8 70:7

104:10

105:2

101:13

25:1541:3

83:19

70:14110:2

arguably

assumptions

83:2

better

26:22

bridge

9:7

69:16

20:8

52:18

beforel:11

between

16:17

24:6

ArmylS:14

assurance

back2l:8

1:125:10

16:2326:23

24:1125:24

Page

114

26:2,6,24

16:19

Certified

claim40:17

collecting

28:20

30:6

27:17

49:4

California

1:12

69:18

102:16

84:12

94:4

50:15,17,24

44:10

CFS 36:6,17

claims

collector

companies

52:11

53:8

ca1169:2

90:16

92:12

102:20

99:17

62:13

58:17 59:17

called8:23

chairman2:5

Clair4:16

Coml5:9

company3:6

59:1960:9

10:19

4:10

clarification

20:2321:8

49:1450:4

62:1663:21

canalll:24

change2l:2

23:7,13

21:1122:9

58:361:5

63:2364:1

32:7,9,17

21:2422:22

24:1325:18

22:1938:16

65:972:6

64:4,9,12

32:1984:19

25:4,8

33:2438:18

43:249:13

108:1

67:1 77:9

86:22 104:7

29:20

77:16

41:9

59:8

50:8,23

compare

107:16,23

106:4,11

77:1778:14

clarify24:14

51:6,16

38:2288:17

bring

8:3

capability

89:9

90:12

66:9 96:1

52:14

62:12

compared

broad52:18

79:12

93:5104:2

98:3,5

65:766:18

36:1737:12

57:1192:2

capable35:5

changed

105:11

79:584:21

38:11,13

broadest

81:4 94:21

20:16

27:11

clarifying

85:4,5

comparing

58:2

97:18

90:13

95:496:8

come5l:10

16:1550:12

broadly

capacity

changes

Clean 6:2

58:16

52:3 55:20

41:1357:11

39:12,17

13:1318:13

57:694:17

comes58:10

comparison

brought69:5

41:6

27:532:12

95:1

96:16

87:24

16:2221:7

BROWN

3:3

capital 40:10

87:12

89:17

98:17

coming

6:19

36:23

38:23

brunt77:10

56:23 57:18

89:1890:9

clearll:14

33:21

39:18

64:9

Bubbly

11:23 captured

90:15,18

55:21

57:22

83:19

comparisons

buddies

89:7

92:12,15,21

71:4

73:20

commencing

63:20

64:7

61:21

care

15:19

92:22,23

clearly37:8

1:15

compilation

build5:15

case6:10

93:8

102:18

connnents

30:12

building

1:14

29:20

32:19

changing

39:21

94:2

95:10

complete

108:2

69:14

27:1933:17

40:1980:12

99:3,9

5:16,20

built4l:6

103:23

33:19 46:7

83:4

84:15

100:20

6:23

11:9

79:16,19

cases

63:23

channel

85:23

86:4

commercial

completion

bunch70:21

cause

1:11

18:15

91:10,17

90:24

6:9

burden

48:18

33:21

56:1

Chapter

closed

17:10

conunittee

complex

8:13

business50:3

causedl9:23

100:5,7

21:1240:6

96:4,17,19

8:16

111:7

29:12 67:8

charge

74:14

41:20

Commonw...

complexities

86:20

97:3

closed-cycle

9:3 11:11

32:11

causing

38:2

chemical

21:15,17

38:13 39:1

compliance

C1:22:13:1

102:3

30:12

22:141:10

39:11,16

8:15,189:5

105:7

CAWS11:19

Chicagol:7

closest77:9

42:1349:6

9:10,16,18

calculate

17:13

25:22

1:15

2:12

closures40:8

49:10,19,22

10:1 13:18

20:12

26:5

28:11

2:18

3:44:5

Club2:15

49:24

50:3

14:3 17:14

calculated

28:1454:23

11:22,24

Cobb’s48:16

50:5,21

18:23

22:11

20:7,13

85:22 86:4

86:23

92:1

Codel:84:7

52:9,22

25:1026:1

calculates

90:21 91:3

111:7,16

codeveloper

53:6,15

26:9 27:20

109:1

91:13

circulated

8:22

59:1461:13

31:257:18

calculational

Center2:11

35:637:23

codingls:5

61:18,21,24

75:8,21

15:5

5:431:6,14

circulating

collaboratL..

62:563:9

76:14

77:11

calculator

certain20:8

19:8,10,18

9:2

63:12,13

79:682:8

36:7

51:280:19

19:2181:13

collaborator

64:15108:1

82:1283:10

calibrate

89:6

105:22

82:2,19

15:2

communities

83:17

85:7

17:4

Certainly

city

12:14

collect

85:10

85:20

88:24

calibrated

69:20

86:23

111:7

104:18

community

92:5,19

Page

115

93:2,11

92:11

93:1

93:13 99:16

contrary

81:1782:4

97:20

107:9

101:12

93:798:8

102:9,12,14

104:16

82:1483:22

Counselor

107:15

101:19,24

102:21

contribute

84:1,5

95:3

108:15,17

103:2,11

103:7,16

94:16

86:1689:11

Countyl:2

108:17

conducted

contained

control

1:3

93:9 108:2

1:13

11:20

compliances

30:13

37:20

2:240:18

108:24

11:23

12:2

19:2

confirm

contains

86:20

91:1

coordinate

13:22

1:20

compliant

18:22

44:20

controlled

92:24

32:2 39:21

30:18

confluence

111:11

18:726:9

copy7:12,16

40:5,22,24

comply25:1

62:16

contaminat...

91:20

7:24

59:16

60:7

25:15 76:5

confused

94:15

controls

corporation

67:9

72:7

87:10 93:15

97:21

contested

79:18

44:10

72:10,16

108:16

connected

69:14

controversi...

Corps

12:4

73:8,24

concerning

66:5

context50:19

57:16

15:14

17:7

77:21 111:2

75:7,19

connection

continually

Conversely

34:13 37:19

couple

31:7

76:194:8

67:3

16:817:2

86:19

47:1287:20

coursel3:14

concerns

consensus

60:18

92:9

conversion

88:13

90:23

90:5

83:10

98:14

93:3

36:11,13

99:14

court5:12

conclude

consider

continue 6:8

Cook

1:13

100:21

23:12

52:24

95:21

108:2

6:11 22:21

111:2

101 :3,4

107:4

111:6

concluded

considerable

23:1

24:18

cool 21:19

correct

11:17

covering

97:17

78:284:21

104:9

76:1179:24

23:1734:11

76:16

conclusion

104:23

continued

80:13

81:7

35:15,23

Crawford

28:1896:14

considered

9:419:1

81:18,24

36:138:10

11:19,23

102:5 103:7

44:2

77:24

104:6

cooled83:2

44:8

45:22

12:1

13:23

conclusions

consistent

continues

cooler 76:24

52:22,23

31:19

32:1

97:2,7

39:5 60:3

59:21

104:4

cooling

9:22

53:3

74:7

33:10

39:21

concurrence

constant27:9

104:18

12:7,12,13

74:15

59:16

60:7

26:23

29:1883:2

continuing

12:15,17,19

111:10

67:977:21

condensed

101:18

4:19

27:2

13:20

16:9

corrected

create6:22

19:23

constantly

83:1785:6

16:12,24

16:2445:1

101:19

condenser

16:15

18:8

92:19

19:10,13,18

65:11

66:22

created

8:24

33:1 37:13

33:17

46:6

continuous

20:2,9,20

correctly

credibility

82:23 105:2

46:7 87:13

59:20

79:1

20:24

21:2

99:22

69:7

condensers

constraints

79:2,16

21:10,13,15

correlation

Creek

11:23

78:15

78:3

89:4100:23

21:18,21

53:2460:1

66:6,7,19

condition

consultant

101:2

22:1,8

60:23 90:22

66:21

51:13

61:5

101:1

continuously

27:14

30:19 correspond

crews 18:21

conditions

101

:20

17:4

18:6

33:1 37:13

90:17

criteria

75:13

14:24

16:14

102:11,20

contract

40:11 41:5

cost20:21,23

102:6

16:20

17:4

103:4,9,19

94:24

:6,10,15

21:1,6,7,8

critical

8:17

18:14,24

104:21,23

contractor

41:1742:2

21:12,14

12:22

13:3

19:327:4

105:1,15

95:21

42:3,23

40:1157:18

13:922:12

27:12

47:23 consultant’s

101:13

43:2,3,7

costs44:3

27:3

79:7

47:23

53:23

102:5

contractors

65:15

77:19

counsel23:6

93:7

54:6,10,14

104:15

84:24

77:22,23

24:13 33:23

critique

76:22

80:10

contactl7:15

contractor’s

78:10,22,23

36:837:4

102:8

82:11

83:15

25:5

28:22

95:4

79:2,10

54:559:3,6

cross44:20

86:17

89:10

29:16

30:23 contradict

80:14

81:4

61:16 62:10

cross-sectio...

91:8,11,22

83:984:14

102:4

81:4,7,12

64:1974:15

45:12,18

Page

116

CS9:20

6:15

19:11,19

derates27:14

20:23

25:21

28:4,8,16

CSR111:15

dayl:164:18

26:1429:21

75:1476:4

44:1845:9

30:1,8,16

CS29:12

6:9,9,11,12

29:22,23,24

76:12,13,21

47:15

52:9

31:3

106:20

current25:4

6:1227:8

47:1853:8

76:2477:2

53:756:10

108:11,12

29:1649:3

32:1,2,3,3,5

75:2480:11

77:5,11

determines

108:19

85:9

93:13

34:24

35:7

82:20,24

derating75:7

108:13

109:3

102:8

35:15,17

83:3,11,14

75:10

76:3

develop

difference

currently

76:18

84:4

83:21

84:3

101:11

63:17

15:2220:6

15:4

44:17

89:4

101:1

99:24

105:7

deratings

developed

35:12

45:5

57:5,21

101:8,14

105:7

106:3

75:22 76:9

9:11

14:21

45:7 83:23

customer

111:19

106:6,11,14

93:10

developing

differences

22:13

days

6:7

deliberately

deregulation

8:15

15:3

19:23

customers

27:18

76:16

75:12

22:22

64:3

different

44:4

77:1

80:23

delighted

derived

deviations

19:13

20:17

customized

deadl03:10

70:1

103:1

16:23

21:963:24

9:13

104:11

deltal9:24

Desl:74:6

dewl5:21

69:1587:11

cyclel2:12

deal52:5

20:751:11

10:1917:13

81:2382:24

97:24

21:13

Deborah2:9

51:15,22

19:16 23:23

84:2

differently

December

52:2,6

67:1

28:11,14

DEXTER

20:14

5:19,22

78:19

29:15

34:17

2:14

difficult

D12:21

6:11,14

demand

37:1538:2

Diamond3:5

32:1378:6

30:19

29:2438:20

12:2222:12

44:2152:10

68:1875:2

difficulties

daily92:2

38:21,23

23:1,2,14

53:1055:11

75:4,17

22:5

daml3:12

72:23,23

27:376:7

62:17

65:19

77:18

78:8

difficulty

14:7,14

80:9,23

demands

65:22

67:4

78:21

80:3

18:5

17:964:12

decide42:22

22:1479:13

83:1584:19

81:282:3

dilute33:5

90:3

92:10

48:13,17

demoustrat...

90:2091:2

82:17 84:7

dilutes87:2

dams9l:20

decision22:8

102:19

92:1,9

85:16

88:20

direct53:24

data

13:8

decisions

demoustrat...

93:23

94:7

88:21

89:12

85:13

14:2,16,22

9:23

101:11

39:759:1,4

94:19,24

89:22

91:4

direction

15:7,15,17

decrease

59:6

60:10

99:2,11

91:6 93:22

15:21

15:19,20

53:2287:7

68:594:18

101:20

98:21,22

directly

16:4,7,9,21

defended

95:17

96:14

102:20

107:4109:4

13:11 15:16

19:1,230:7

49:23

demonstrat...

description

109:6,17

24:4

65:15

47:21

48:4

defending

63:14

78:11,22

dictate30:18

90:3

103:5

48:10

58:19

50:3

deny

106:2

design

19:7,9

87:993:8

discernible

59:24 61:5

defensible

department

19:17

20:7

dictated

92:13

88:13

89:6

102:24

85:4

104:1

78:10,14

85:20

discharge

99:13,15,17

defer67:6

depends4:10

81:9,11

Diers2:9

8:6

11:20,24

100:3,22,23

define

107:10

depending

designed

8:7 10:3,10

13:24,24

101:4,5,6

definitely

15:917:19

35:578:24

11:1812:5

14:16,18

101:11,23

48:14

18:1346:3

79:281:6

12:1613:1

15:1816:11

102:2,15,18

degraded

53:23

80:16

82:15

14:20

17:6

18:19

19:24

102:24

29:10

depends54:6

despitelo4:5

17:11

19:5

21:21

42:6

103:4

degrades

80:8

detail89:14

20:18 22:17

42:18

44:19

104:12,21

22:10

depicted

detailed

23:2,9,17

58:15 65:18

104:24

degrading

100:22

15:12

24:1,7,21

71:772:8

106:9

9:22

depicts

101:2

determine

24:23 25:2

73:5,16

date6:7

degree5l:5

derate76:19

9:17108:16

25:1726:11

74:12,16

dates5:19,23

degreesl9:8

77:15

determined

27:10,21

78:16,18

Page

117

81:6,8,18

68:669:7

99:1,3

79:7,13

50:5,21

12:2275:12

81:20 82:1

70:2 71:4,8

dramatically

82:9,13

52:9,22

75:14

82:20,23

72:5,5,15

77:16

83:14 86:9

53:6,15

electricity

83:11,13

72:1673:3

drastic29:19

86:1689:2

59:1461:13

22:1375:15

99:13

104:7

105:24

86:21

104:2

89:4,590:5

61:18,21,24

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