Subscribed and sworn to before me
this
18
th
day of J ary, 200
BEFORE THE ILLINOIS POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD
IN THE MATTER OF:
RECEIVEDCLERKS
OFFICE
JAN 2 2 2008
STATE OF ILLINOIS
Pollution
Control Board
WATER QUALITY STANDARDS AND )
EFFLUENT LIMITATIONS FOR THE
) R08-9
CHICAGO AREA WATERWAY SYSTEM )
(Rulemaking – Water)
AND THE LOWER DES PLAINES RIVER: )
PROPOSED
Adm. Code Parts
AMENDMENTS
301, 302, 303
TO
and
35
304III.
))
PROOF OF SERVICE
TO:
Mr. John T. Therriault,
Assistant Clerk of the Board
Illinois Pollution Control Board
100 West Randolph Street
Suite 11-500
Chicago, Illinois 60601
(VIA FIRST CLASS MAIL)
Ms. Marie E. Tipsord
Hearing Officer
Illinois Pollution Control Board
100 West Randolph Street
Suite 11-500
Chicago, Illinois 60601
(VIA FIRST CLASS MAIL)
(SEE PERSONS ON ATTACHED SERVICE LIST)
I, Patti L. Tucker, the undersigned, on oath state that I have served on January 18, 2008,
the attached PRE-FILED QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS OF FLINT HILLS RESOURCES
via U.S. Mail, postage pre-paid, upon the per • s listed on the attar'
ed Service List.
"OFFICIAL SEAL"
Mary Kay 'Younker
Notary
state
of
Illinois
My-Commissi Exp. 47/21/2009
THIS FILING SUBMITTED ON RECYCLED PAPER
SERVICE LIST
Ms. Marie E. Tipsord
Hearing Officer
Illinois Pollution Control Board
100 West Randolph Street
Suite 11-500
Chicago, Illinois 60601
Matthew J. Dunn, Esq.
Chief
Environmental Enforcement Division
Office of the Attorney General
69 West Washington, 18
th
Floor
Chicago, Illinois 60602
Deborah J. Williams, Esq.
Stefanie N. Diers, Esq.
Illinois EPA
1021 North Grand Avenue East
Post Office Box 19276
Springfield, Illinois 62794-9276
Frederick M. Feldman, Esq.
Ronald M. Hill, Esq.
Mr. Louis Kollias
Margaret T. Conway
Metropolitan Water
Reclamation District
100 East Erie Street
Chicago, Illinois 60611
Richard J. Kissel, Esq.
Roy M. Harsch-, Esq. -
Drinker, Biddle, Gardner, Carton
191 North Wacker Drive
Suite 3700
Chicago, Illinois 60606-1698
Claire A. Maiming, Esq.
Brown, Hay & Stephens, LLP
700 First Mercantile Bank Building
205 South Fifth Street
Post Office Box 2459
Springfield, Illinois 62705-2459
Kevin G. Desharnais, Esq.
Thomas W. Dimond, Esq.
Thomas V. Skinner, Esq.
Mayer, Brown LLP
71 South Wacker Drive
Chicago, Illinois 60606-4637
Charles W. Wesselhoft, Esq.
James T. Harrington, Esq.
Ross & Hardies
150 North Michigan Avenue
Suite 2500
Chicago, Illinois 60601-7567
Mr. Robert VanGyseghem
City of Geneva
1800 South Street
Geneva, Illinois 60134-2203
Jerry Paulsen, Esq.
Cindy Skrukrud, Esq.
McHenry County Defenders
132 Cass Street
Woodstock, Illinois 60098
Albert Ettinger, Esq.
Freeman, Freeman & Salzman
401 North Michigan Avenue
Chicago, Illinois 60611
Mr. Bernard Sawyer
Mr. Thomas Granto
Metropolitan Water
Reclamation District
6001 West Pershing Road
Cicero, Illinois 60650
Ms. Lisa Frede
Chemical Industry Council of Illinois
2250 East Devon Avenue
Suite 239
Des Plaines, Illinois 60018-4509
Fredric P. Andes, Esq.
Erika K. Powers, Esq.
1 North Wacker Drive
Suite 4400
Chicago, Illinois 60606
Mr. James L. Daugherty
Thorn Creek Basin Sanitary District
700 West End Avenue
Chicago Heights, Illinois 60411
Ms. Sharon Neal
Commonwealth Edison Company
125 South Clark Street
Chicago, Illinois 60603
Tracy Elzemeyer, Esq.
American Water Company
727 Craig Road
St. Louis, Missouri 63141
Margaret P. Howard, Esq.
Hedinger Law Office
2601 South Fifth Street
Springfield, Illinois 62703
Mr. Keith I. Harley
Ms. Elizabeth Schenkler
Chicago Legal Clinic, Inc.
205 West Monroe Street
4
th
Floor
Chicago, Illinois 60606
Frederick D. Keady, P.E.
Vermillion Coal Company
1979 Johns Drive
Glenview, Illinois 60025
Mr. Fred L. Hubbard
16 West Madison
Post Office Box 12
Danville, Illinois 61834
Ms. Georgia Vlahos
Naval Training Center
2601A Paul Jones Street
Great Lakes, Illinois 60088-2845
W.C. Blanton, Esq.
Blackwell Sanders LLP
4801 Main Street
Suite 1000
Kansas City, Missouri 64112
Mr. Dennis L. Duffield
City of Joliet, Department of Public
Work and Utilities
921 East Washington Street
Joliet, Illinois 60431
Ms. Kay Anderson
American Bottoms RWTF
One American Bottoms Road
Sauget, Illinois 62201
Mr. Jack Darin
Sierra Club
70 East Lake Street
Suite 1500
Chicago, Illinois 60601-7447
Mr. Bob Carter
Bloomington Normal Water
Reclamation District
Post Office Box 3307
Bloomington, Illinois 61702-3307
Mr. Torn Muth
Fox Metro Water Reclamation District
682 State Route 31
Oswego, Illinois 60543
Mr. Kenneth W. Liss
Andrews Environmental Engineering
3300 Ginger Creek Drive
Springfield, Illinois 62711
Albert Ettinger, Esq.
Jessica Dexter, Esq.
Environmental Law & Policy Center
35 East Wacker
Suite 1300
Chicago, Illinois 60601
Ms. Vicky McKinley
Evanston Environment Board
223 Grey Avenue
Evanston, Illinois 60202
Mr. Marc Miller
Mr. Jamie S. Caston
Office of Lt. Governor Pat Quinn
Room 414 State House
Springfield, Illinois 62706
Mr. James Huff
Huff & Huff, Inc.
915 Harger Road
Suite 330
Oak Brook, Illinois 60523
Ann Alexander, Esq.
Natural Resources Defense Council
101 North Wacker Drive
Suite 609
Chicago, Illinois 60606
Ms. Traci Barkley
Prairie Rivers Network
1902 Fox Drive
Suite 6
Champaign, Illinois 61820
Susan M. Franzetti, Esq.
Franzetti Law Firm P.C.
10 South LaSalle Street
Suite 3600
Chicago, Illinois 60603
Mr. Irwin Polls
Ecological Monitoring and Assessment
3206 Maple Leaf Drive
Glenview, Illinois 60025
Dr. Thomas J. Murphy
2325 North Clifton Street
Chicago, Illinois 60614
Ms. Cathy Hudzik
City of Chicago = Mayor's Office -
of Intergovernmental Affairs
121 North LaSalle Street
City Hall – Room 406
Chicago, Illinois 60602
Ms. Beth Steinhorn
2021 Timberbrook
Springfield, Illinois 62702
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CLERK'S
OFFICE
January 17, 2008
)AN
2 2 2008
Illinois Pollution Control Board
Attn: Ms. Made E. Tipsord
Attn: Mr John T. Therriault
100 West Randolph, Suite 11-500
Chicago, IL 60601-
Subject:
Pre-filed Questions and Comments, Docket No: R2008-009
Proposed Amendments to 35 ILL. Administrative Code 301,
302, 303, and 304
Water Quality Standards and Effluent Limitations for the
Chicago Area
Waterway
System and Lower Des Plaines. River
To Whom It
May Concern:
Please find below questions and comments relating to the proposed subject rule
making:
Regulatory BackgrOund. Economic Reasonableness
STATE OF ILLINOIS
Pollution Control Board
Section 5/27(a) of tree Illinois Environmental Protection Act (415 ILCS 5/) states
that
"In
promulgating regulations under
this Act,
the
Board shall
take
into.account
the'ekiSting-ph/§iaNböhditions, the character
oftheilea involved, includingthe
character of surrounding land uses, zoning classifications, the nature of the
existing air quality, or receiving body
of
water, as the case maybe, and the
technical
feasibility and economic reasonableness of measuring
or reducing
the
particular type of pollution'
Complying with the proposed thermal standards may present -difficult technical,
feasibility
Issues
and involve significant capital jnyestment. pid the agency seek
historical thermal effluent data'from all potentiallY'iMpactedfacilities
-
along the
affected waterway when assessing the economic feasibility of the proposed rule
making?
Illinois Pollution Control Board
January 17, 2008
Page 2
Study Methodology:
"Temperature
Criteria Options for the Lower Des
Plaines River"
The agency relies heavily on data and observations from the report
"Temperature Criteria Options for the Lower Des Plaines River" (C.
Yoder & E.
Rankin, October 11, 2005) to develop the proposed thermal standards for the
subject waterways. Attachment S of the report contains a summary of the report
data. Will the agency make the raw data and quality assuranceiquality control
methodology available from this study for review?
The agency.has an extensive database of local field data relating to fish
populations and water ternperature in the subject waterway from dischargers
such as Midwest Generation. Did the agency utilize thisjocal field data during
the process of developing the proposed thermal standards?
Mixing Zones
Some: of the dischargers potentially affected by the'proposed rule making are
located downstream from large dischargers with established mixing zones per
regulations under 35 IAC 302.102. Will the agency clarify if and how mixing
zone designations willbe established for dischargers Whoourrently may be in the
footprint of another discharger's zone?
Narrative Water Quality Standards
Narrative standards exist in 351AC 302.210 and in Subpart F for General Use
Waters. Is it the agency's intention to Incorporate this substantial set of narrative
standards into the Proposed Lower Des Plaines River standards'? Did the
agency evaluate the economic reasonableness and technical feasibility of
incorporating these narrative standardsinto the proposed
.
Lower Des Plaines
River standards?
•
Disinfection
The proposed bacteria standard may require dischargers to disinfect effluents.
Did the agency evaluate the economic reasonableness and technical feasibility
of incorporating the proposed:disinfectio
nstandard
into the proposed
Loiver Des
Plaines River standards?
Illinois Pollution Control Board
January 17, 2008
Page 3
Chloride
Industrial storm water outfalls to the subject waterways may include offsite areas
where the discharger does not have control over common activities that result in
the discharge of high concentrations of chloride (such as application of road salt)
that may impair the Waterway for chloride. Does the agency intend to apply the
proposed chloride standard to dischargers of storm water? If the proposed
chloride standard is intended to apply to dischargers of storm water from multiple
sources, did the agency evaluate the economic reasonableness and technical
feasibility of incorporating the proposed standard into the proposed Lower Des
Plaines River standards?
If you have any questions regarding this submittal please contact Joe Haug at
815-467-3263 or at joseph.haug©fhr.com.
Sincerely,
Flint Hills Resources, LP
Tirri R. Nicol
Plant Manager, Vice President-Manufacturing
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