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ORIGINAL
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ILLINOIS POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD
December 5, 2007
IN THE MATTER OF:
EXEMPTIONS FROM THE
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DEFINITION OF VOM, USEPA
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(Identical-in-
AMENDMENTS (January 1, 2007
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through June 30, 2007)
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Rulemaking - Air)
REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS held in the
above-entitled cause before Hearing Officer Michael
J. McCambridge, called by the Illinois Pollution
Control Board, taken before Laura Bernar, CSR, a
notary public within and for the County of Cook and
state of Illinois, at the James R. Thompson Center,
100 West Randolph, Suite 11-500, Chicago, Illinois,
on the 5th day of December, 2007, commencing at the
hour of 1:30 p.m.
BOARD MEMBERS:
MR. G. TANNER GIRARD - Chairman
MR. THOMAS JOHNSON - Member
MR. MICHAEL McCAMBRIDGE - Hearing Officer

 
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ILLINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
1021 North Grand Avenue East
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P.O. Box 19276
Springfield, Illinois 62794-9276
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(217)782-5544
Appeared on behalf of the Illinois
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HEARING OFFICER McCAMBRIDGE: Let the
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record show that it's 1:33. This is the
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Public Hearing in R-086, the exemption from
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the definition of VOM, USEPA amendments
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(January 1, 2007 through June 30, 2007.) My
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name is Mike McCambridge. I'm the hearing
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officer. With me here are Dr. Tanner Girard,
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Chairman, and Mr. Tom Johnson, board member.
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Would the agency care to --
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CHAIRMAN GIRARD: Want me to give my
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welcome speech?
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HEARING OFFICER McCAMBRIDGE: If you
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CHAIRMAN GIRARD: Good afternoon. On
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behalf of the board, I welcome everyone to
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this hearing to consider updating the
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definition of volatile organic material. The
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proposal before us would add one new compound
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to the list of compounds exempted from the
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definition of VOM and clarify some amendments
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made by the Board in 2005. We look forward
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to your testimony and comments. Thank you.
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MR. KIM: John Kim, attorney for the
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The compound added by USEPA on May 19 --
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wait. What was the date on that? I'm at a
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loss. It was January 18, 2007, was
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1,1,1,2,2,3,4,5,5,5-decafluoro-3-methoxy-4-
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trifluoromethyl-pentane. It also has, I
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guess you'd say, industrial names of HFE-7300
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and L-14787. The USEPA has determined that
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this compound has negligible photochemical
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reactivity, so it is exempted from the
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federal definition of volatile organic
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compound. As a result of that, pursuant to
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section 9.1(e) of the Environmental
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Protection Act, the Board is compelled to
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also exempt it from the Illinois definition
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of volatile organic material, and to do so by
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January 18, 2008. The notice of proposed
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amendments in this appeared in the Illinois
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Register on November 2 of 2007. The public
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comment period will end on December 17, 2007,
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and its present intent for the Board to
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consider adoption of this amendment at the
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January 10, 2008 meeting. I might add that,
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correction in here on the way tertiary butyl
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acetate is handled in the existing -- in an
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existing exemption from the definition of
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volatile organic material, basically adding a
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reference to clarify the definition in
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response to USEPA comments made to IEPA and
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then turned over to the Board.
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Having said that, I've said what I
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have. Mr. Kim, do you have anything?
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MR. KIM: The Illinois EPA has
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reviewed the Board's order dated October 18,
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well as explanation that you have just
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alluded to, Mr. Hearing Officer. And
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specifically as to the modifications that
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were made by the Board to the Agency
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suggested language, we do appreciate those
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modifications and certainly we have no
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problem with the slightly revised wording.
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So having reviewed the Board's October 18
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order as well as the first notice, the Agency
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has no concerns or objections as to the
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format and the content of the proposed rule.
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CHAIRMAN GIRARD: Nothing further.
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Thank you.
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HEARING OFFICER McCAMBRIDGE: Mr.
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Johnson?
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MR. JOHNSON: No. Other than I'm
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assuming that there's no economic hearing
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requirement component in this?
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HEARING OFFICER McCAMBRIDGE: No.
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Actually, the hearing is required under
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Section 110 of the Federal Clean Air Act
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because it will result in a state SIP
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revision so that we are dotting a federal
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even though the merits --
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HEARING OFFICER McCAMBRIDGE: -- are
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not the subject of it, just how we are
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accomplishing and whether we're getting it
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done. Having said that, we'll conclude the
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hearing.
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MR. KIM: Thank you.
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STATE OF ILLINOIS )
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LAURA BERNAR, being a Certified
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Shorthand Reporter doing business in the City of
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Chicago, Illinois, County of Cook, certify that I
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reported in shorthand the proceedings had at the
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foregoing hearing of the above-entitled cause. And
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I certify that the foregoing is a true and correct
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transcript of all my shorthand notes so taken as
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aforesaid and contains all the proceedings had at
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the said meeting of the above-entitled cause.
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LAURA BERNAR, CSR
CSR NO. 084-003592
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