BEFORE THE
    ILLINOIS
    POLLUTION CONTROL
    BOARD
    RECEIVED
    CLERKS OFFICE
    )
    N0V222005
    STATE OF
    ILLINOIS
    R 06-08
    Pollution Control Board
    REGULATION APPLICABLE TO
    )
    (Site-Specific Rulemaking
    --
    Land)
    SILBRICO CORPORATION
    (35 lll.Adm.Code Part 810)
    IN
    THE
    MA1TER OF:
    PROPOSED
    SITE SPECIFIC WASTE
    )
    To:
    (See attached Service
    List.)
    NOTICE
    OF
    FILING
    PLEASE
    TAKE
    NOTICE
    that
    on
    this 22~day of
    November 2005,
    the
    following
    were
    filed
    with
    the
    Illinois
    Pollution
    Control
    Board:
    Petitioner Silbrico
    Corporation’s
    Response
    to
    Motion
    for
    Leave
    to
    File
    a
    Reply
    and
    Motion
    for
    Leave
    to
    File
    Surreply, and Silbrico’s Surreply, attached and
    herewith
    served
    upon
    you.
    Elizabeth
    S.
    Harvey
    Michael
    J.
    Maher
    SWANSON, MARTIN & BELL,
    LLP
    One IBM
    Plaza,
    Suite
    3300
    330
    North Wabash Avenue
    Chicago,
    Illinois
    60611
    SILBRICO
    CORPORATION
    By~
    One of
    its
    attorneys
    Telephone:
    (312)
    321-9100

    CERTIFICATE
    OF SERVICE
    I,
    the
    undersigned
    non-attorney,
    state
    that
    I
    served
    a
    copy
    of
    Petitioner
    Silbrico
    Corporation’s
    Response
    to
    Motion
    for
    Leave
    to
    File
    a
    Reply
    and
    Motion
    for
    Leave
    to
    File
    Surreply,
    and
    Silbrico’s
    Surreply
    to
    counsel
    of
    record
    in
    the
    above-captioned
    matter
    via
    U.S.
    Mail
    at One IBM
    Plaza,
    Chicago,
    IL 60611
    on
    or
    before 5:00 p.m.
    on
    November 22,
    2005.
    (~~f~ette
    M.
    Podlin
    x
    Under
    penalties as provided
    by
    law
    pursuant to 735 ILCS
    5/1-109,
    I
    certify
    that the statements set forth
    herein
    are true
    and correct.

    2049-002
    SERVICE LIST
    Case
    No.
    R 06-08
    (Site-Specific Rulemaking
    --.
    Land)
    Mark V.
    Gurnik,
    Assistant Counsel
    Illinois Environmental
    Protection Agency
    Division of Legal Counsel
    1021
    North Grand Avenue
    East
    P.O.
    Box
    19276
    Springfield,
    Illinois
    62794-9276
    Department of Commerce
    and
    Economic Opportunity
    Office of Legal Counsel
    620
    East Adams Street
    Springfield,
    Illinois
    62701-1615
    Christopher P Perzan
    Environmental
    Enforcement
    Office of the Attorney General
    188 West Randolph Street
    20th
    Floor
    Chicago,
    Illinois
    60601
    John
    Kittle,
    Hearing
    Officer
    Illinois Pollution
    Control Board
    2125 South First Street
    Champaign,
    Illinois
    61820
    Office of Legal
    Services
    Illinois
    Department of Natural Resources
    524 South Second Street
    Springfield,
    Illinois
    62701-1787

    BEFORE THE
    ILLINOIS
    POLLUTION CONTROL
    BOAREF!OECEIVED
    LERK S OFFICE
    INTHEMATTEROF:
    )
    NOv
    2220
    )
    PROPOSED SITE SPECIFIC WASTE
    )
    R
    06-08
    p964TE OF ILLINOIS
    REGULATION APPLICABLE
    TO
    )
    (Site-Specific RuleR
    kW~0Da~ak~oar~g
    SILBRICO CORPORATION
    (35 lll.Adm.Code Part 810)
    RESPONSE TO MOTION
    FOR LEAVE TO FILE A REPLY AND
    MOTION
    FOR LEAVE TO
    FILE SURREPLY
    Petitioner SILBRICO CORPORATION
    (“Silbrico”), by
    its
    attorneys Swanson,
    Martin
    & Bell,
    LLP, hereby
    responds to the Attorney General’s motion
    for
    leave
    to file
    a
    reply.
    As
    part of its
    response,
    Silbrico seeks leave to file the attached surreply.
    1.
    On
    November 3,
    2005, the Attorney General filed
    a
    motion
    for
    leave to file
    a
    reply
    to
    Silbrico’s
    response
    to
    the
    Attorney
    General’s
    motion
    to
    dismiss
    this
    petition
    for
    site-specific rule.
    Sllbrico
    received that motion
    on
    or about November 10,
    2005.1
    2.
    The Attorney General
    seeks leave
    to file
    a
    reply to Silbrico’s
    response.
    The
    Attorney
    General
    asserts
    that
    Silbrico’s
    response
    “appears
    to
    change
    the
    basis
    for
    the
    Petition,”
    and thus seeks to respond to that alleged change
    in
    rationale.
    3.
    Silbrico disagrees that its
    response in
    any way
    changed the
    basis for the
    site-
    specific petition.
    However,
    Silbrico has
    no objection
    to the
    filing
    of the
    Attorney
    General’s
    reply,
    if Silbrico
    is
    allowed
    to file the attached surreply.
    4.
    The
    surreply
    is
    necessary
    for
    Silbrico
    to
    address
    the
    arguments
    in
    the
    Attorney
    General’s
    reply.
    In
    addition
    to
    misunderstanding
    Silbrico’s
    position,
    the
    reply
    includes
    additional
    arguments
    not
    made
    in
    the
    motion
    to
    dismiss.
    Silbrico
    seeks
    the
    1
    The Board’s
    rules allow for a response
    to
    a motion
    within
    14 days of
    service of that motion.
    35 llI.Adm.Code
    101.500(d).
    Therefore, this
    response
    is timely
    filed.

    opportunity
    to
    respond
    to
    those
    additional
    arguments.
    Silbrico
    will
    be
    prejudiced
    if
    it
    cannot
    respond to the Attorney General’s claims.
    5.
    Silbrico
    agrees
    with
    the
    Attorney
    General
    that
    the
    filing
    of
    the
    reply
    and
    Silbrico’s
    surreply
    will
    “ensure
    that
    the
    Board
    has
    the
    benefit
    of
    a
    full
    and
    complete
    discussion of the
    issues.”
    Therefore,
    Silbrico
    has no
    objection
    to the filing of the Attorney
    General’s
    reply,
    if Silbrico
    is
    similarly
    allowed
    to file
    the
    attached
    surreply.
    If the
    Board
    decides
    not
    to allow
    Silbrico
    to file
    the
    surreply,
    Silbrico
    objects
    to the Attorney General’s
    motion
    for
    leave to file
    a
    reply.
    Respectfully submitted,
    SILBRICO CORPORATION
    By:
    Dated:
    November 22,
    2005
    Elizabeth
    S.
    Harvey
    Michael
    J.
    Maher
    Swanson,
    Martin
    & Bell,
    LLP
    One IBM
    Plaza,
    Suite 3300
    330 North Wabash Avenue
    Chicago,
    Illinois
    60611
    Telephone:
    (312) 321-9100
    2

    BEFORE THE
    ILLINOIS POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD
    ~ED
    NOV
    222005
    IN
    THE
    MATTER OF:
    )
    STATE OF ILLINOIS
    Pollution Control Board
    PROPOSED
    SITE SPECIFIC WASTE
    )
    R 06-08
    REGULATION
    APPLICABLE TO
    )
    (Site-Specific Rulemaking
    --
    Land)
    SILBRICO CORPORATION
    (35
    lll.Adm.Code Part
    810)
    SILBRICO’S SURREPLY
    Petitioner
    SILBRICO
    CORPORATION
    (“Silbrico”),
    by
    its
    attorneys
    Swanson,
    Martin
    &
    Bell,
    LLP,
    hereby
    submits
    its
    surreply
    to
    the
    Attorney
    General’s
    reply.
    The
    filings
    address
    the
    Attorney
    General’s
    motion
    to
    dismiss
    Silbrico’s
    petition
    for
    site-
    specific rule.
    ARGUMENT
    The Attorney General claims the
    Board lacks
    authority to grant
    Silbrico’s
    petition
    for site-specific rule,
    regardless of whether
    Silbrico seeks
    to
    classify
    its
    waste
    streams
    as
    “clean
    construction
    and
    demolition
    debris”
    (CCDD),
    or
    as
    similar
    to
    CCDD.
    Once
    again, the Attorney General’s arguments misunderstand
    Silbrico’s
    position
    and,
    in
    some
    cases,
    show a
    lack
    of understanding of the
    Board’s processes.
    There
    are,
    fortunately,
    three
    issues
    on
    which
    the
    Attorney
    General
    and
    Silbrico
    are
    in
    agreement.
    First,
    Silbrico’s
    off-specification
    perlite and fugitive
    perlite
    are indeed
    wastes.1
    Second,
    those
    two
    waste
    streams
    do
    not
    fall
    under the
    definition
    of CCDD.
    1
    The Attorney General
    improperly addresses,
    in
    its
    reply,
    several issues
    from the pending
    variance
    proceeding.
    Si/brico Corporation
    v.
    IFRA,
    PCB
    06-11.
    Addressing
    the
    variance
    petition
    in
    the
    context of
    this site-specific
    proceeding
    is
    improper
    and
    irrelevant,
    and
    all
    references to the variance
    petition
    should
    be
    ignored.
    However,
    Silbrico
    must
    address
    the
    substantive
    claim
    raised
    by
    the
    Attorney
    General.
    The
    Attorney
    General
    asserts
    that Silbrico
    is
    “confused
    as
    to
    why wastes
    are
    required
    to
    be
    disposed
    of
    at
    landfills
    or other appropriate facilities.”
    Reply,
    at footnote
    1.
    It
    is the Attorney General
    who
    is
    confused.
    The
    references
    in
    the
    amended
    petition
    for
    variance
    are
    made
    in
    response
    to
    the
    Board’s
    inquiry
    regarding
    regulatory
    provisions
    which
    require
    the
    landfilling
    of
    industrial
    process
    wastes
    and
    pollution

    Third,
    regulations
    adopted
    by
    the
    Board,
    pursuant
    to
    Section
    27
    of the
    Act,
    must
    be
    consistent
    with
    the
    provisions
    of the
    Act.
    Unfortunately,
    those
    are
    apparently the
    only
    issues
    on
    which
    the
    Attorney
    General
    and
    Silbrico
    agree.
    The
    Attorney
    General
    continues to misunderstand
    or mischaracterize
    Silbrico’s
    position.
    The
    issue
    here
    is
    really
    quite
    simple:
    does
    Section
    27(a)
    of
    the Act
    allow
    the
    Board to
    hear petitions for site-specific rule which
    seek approval of an alternate
    method
    of disposal
    of
    a
    waste,
    where that alternate
    method
    is
    established by statute?
    Silbrico
    believes that Section 27(a) does
    indeed give the
    Board that authority.
    Section 27(a)
    limits
    the
    Board’s
    rulemaking
    authority
    to “substantive
    regulations
    as
    described
    in the Act.”
    In
    Section
    22 of the Act, the
    legislature
    has granted
    the
    Board
    broad
    authority to
    adopt regulations to
    promote the
    purposes of Title
    V:
    Land
    Pollution
    and
    Refuse
    Disposal.
    (See
    415
    ILCS
    5/22.)
    New
    Section
    22.51
    of
    the
    Act,
    which
    establishes
    requirements for
    “CCDD fill
    operations”
    is
    part of Title V
    of the
    Act.
    Thus,
    the
    Board
    has the
    specific authority to adopt regulations
    relating to CCDDfUtoperations.
    As
    stated
    in
    Section
    27(a),
    the generality of the
    Board’s
    authority
    to
    adopt
    regulations
    “as
    described
    in
    the
    Act”
    is
    “limited
    only
    by
    the
    specifications
    of
    particular
    classes
    of
    regulations elsewhere
    in
    this Act.”
    (415
    ILCS 5/27(a).)
    Silbrico’s
    requested
    site-specific
    rule seeks to allow the
    disposal of
    its
    two perlite waste streams
    in
    a
    “clean
    construction
    and
    demolition
    debris
    operation which
    has obtained the
    necessary
    authorization and/or
    permit pursuant to
    Section
    22.51
    of the Act.”
    (See
    Petition for
    site-specific,
    p.
    3,
    with
    modification
    explained
    in
    footnote 2,
    page 4
    of Silbrico’s
    response
    in
    opposition to the
    control
    wastes.
    Silbrico’s
    statements
    in
    its
    amended
    variance
    petition
    address
    the
    apparent
    lack
    of
    a
    specific
    regulation which
    requires the landfilling
    of such wastes.
    The Attorney General
    has
    not pointed
    to
    any
    regulation
    with
    that
    requirement.
    Additionally,
    the
    Attorney
    General
    fails
    to
    note
    that
    Silbrico
    specifically
    states that “there is no dispute...that these two waste streams must currently
    be
    so disposed.”
    Amended
    petition
    for variance,
    page
    3.
    2

    motion
    to
    dismiss.)
    Silbrico’s
    requested
    site-specific
    rule
    falls
    within
    the
    Board’s
    rulemaking authority
    under Sections
    22 and 27(a) of theflAct.
    The Attorney General continually asserts that the
    requested site-specific
    rule is in
    conflict with
    the
    Act, but never explains
    or demonstrates that conflict.
    Saying that there
    is
    a
    conflict
    between
    the
    two does
    not
    create
    a
    conflict.
    Indeed,
    there
    is
    no
    conflict.
    Silbrico seeks
    a
    rule which, if granted, would allow it to dispose of two waste streams
    in
    a regulated CCDD operation.
    Regulated
    CCDD operations are specifically provided for,
    and
    regulated
    by,
    Section
    22.51
    of the
    Act.
    Silbrico
    contends that
    its
    two perlite
    waste
    streams
    are
    similar
    to
    CCDD,
    so
    that
    those
    wastes
    can
    be
    safely
    disposed
    of
    at
    a
    CCDD operation.
    There is
    no conflict between the proposed rule and the Act.
    The
    Attorney
    General
    apparently
    misunderstands
    the
    category
    broadly
    termed
    site-specific rules,
    when
    it claims that Silbrico’s
    requested
    rule
    “really
    isn’t
    site-specific”
    because
    it does
    not
    identify or limit
    disposal to any specific
    disposal
    site.
    The category
    of rules
    known
    as
    “site-specific”
    rules
    is
    based
    upon
    the
    second
    sentence
    of
    Section
    27(a),
    which
    specifically
    allows
    the
    Board to
    “make different
    provisions
    as
    required
    by
    circumstances
    for
    different
    contaminant
    sources.”
    (415
    ILCS
    5/27(a)
    (emphasis
    added).)
    Thus,
    a “site-specific” rule
    is not
    always technically site-specific
    in
    the
    sense of
    one
    physical
    disposal
    site:
    it
    is
    “site-specific”
    in
    the
    sense that
    it applies
    only to
    one
    “contaminant source.”
    Here,
    Silbrico seeks
    a
    rule which
    applies ppjy to the
    two perlite
    waste
    streams
    from
    Silbrico’s
    facility
    in
    Hodgkins,
    Cook
    County,
    Illinois
    --
    a
    “contaminant source.”
    (See Petition
    for site-specific,
    p. 3, with modification
    explained
    in
    footnote 2,
    page 4
    of Silbrico’s
    response
    in
    opposition
    to the
    motion
    to dismiss.)
    This
    3

    request
    is
    well
    within
    the
    scope
    of
    the
    Board’s
    Section
    27(a)
    authority
    to
    adopt
    a
    rulemaking
    a “different
    provision” for “different contaminant sources.”
    The Attorney General
    also spends
    almost
    a
    whole page
    claiming that somehow
    this proposed
    rule, applicable only to Silbrico’s
    two waste streams from
    Silbrico’s facility,
    will
    cause
    an
    explosion
    of
    other waste
    generators
    improperly
    using
    CCDD
    operations
    for
    disposal.
    (Reply,
    p.
    4.)
    With
    all
    due
    respect, the Attorney
    General
    has apparently
    confused
    Silbrico’s
    request for
    a
    site-specific
    rule
    with
    enforcement
    issues
    which
    may
    arise
    as
    a result of others, improperly and without authorization,
    using
    CCDD operations
    for disposal of non-CCDD.
    The Attorney General’s experience
    in
    enforcement
    is simply
    irrelevant
    to
    the
    issue
    here:
    does
    the
    Board
    have
    the
    authority
    to
    grant
    Silbrico’s
    proposed
    rule?
    There have
    been
    no
    claims,
    to
    Silbrico’s
    knowledge,
    that
    Silbrico
    has
    somehow violated
    any
    provision
    of
    the Act
    or the
    regulations.
    Whether or
    not
    others,
    unrelated
    to Silbrico,
    ignore
    the
    provisions
    of the
    Act and
    regulations has
    no bearing
    on
    the
    Board’s authority to grant the
    requested
    rule.2
    Perhaps
    the
    Attorney
    General’s
    curious
    focus
    on
    others
    using
    the
    “waste
    exemption”
    possibly granted
    to Silbrico
    grows out
    of
    its
    continued
    insistence on
    calling
    Silbrico’s
    proposed
    site-specific
    rule
    a
    “waste exemption.”
    Silbrico
    is
    not
    requesting
    a
    “waste
    exemption”:
    it
    is
    requesting
    a
    rule that would
    allow it
    (and
    only
    it) to dispose of
    two
    specific
    waste
    streams
    in
    a
    CCDD
    operation
    authorized
    by
    statute.
    Simply
    put,
    Silbrico’s
    request,
    by
    its
    specific terms
    and
    proposed
    language,
    is
    limited
    to Silbrico’s
    two
    perlite
    waste
    streams.
    It would
    not
    apply
    to
    any
    other
    generator
    of
    any
    type
    of
    2
    It
    is inappropriate
    to attempt to
    link Silbrico’s
    request with
    any entity which
    may dispose of waste
    in
    violation
    of the Act.
    Silbrico
    has
    complied
    with
    all
    statutory
    and
    regulatory provisions,
    and
    is
    indeed
    pursuing
    this
    site-specific
    in
    order
    to
    remain
    in
    compliance
    with
    the
    Act.
    If the
    requested
    rule
    is
    not
    granted,
    Silbrico
    will,
    of
    course,
    continue
    to
    dispose
    of
    its
    perlite
    waste
    streams
    in
    a
    permitted
    nonhazardous
    landfill.
    4

    waste.
    Silbrico
    is puzzled by the Attorney General’s assertion that there
    is
    no provision
    in
    the Act which would
    limit the
    “new exemption”
    to site-specific decisions
    made
    by the
    Board.
    The Attorney
    General
    is
    simply
    incorrect.
    This
    is
    a
    request for
    a
    site-specific
    rule.
    If granted,
    it would
    apply
    ONLY to Silbrico,
    and
    not to others.
    The requested rule
    would
    not
    create
    a
    broad
    “waste
    exemption.”
    Any
    other generator
    attempting
    to
    use
    Silbrico’s
    site-specific
    rule
    as
    justification
    for disposal
    of waste
    in
    a
    CCDD
    operation
    would be subject to enforcement by the Attorney General.
    Finally,
    Silbrico must
    address
    the Attorney
    General’s second footnote
    regarding
    Silbrico’s
    variance petition.
    (Reply,
    footnote
    2 at
    pp 3-4.)
    As
    noted above,
    addressing
    the
    variance
    petition
    in
    the
    context
    of
    the
    pending
    motion
    to
    dismiss
    the
    site-specific
    petition
    is inappropriate,
    and
    should
    be ignored.
    However, the
    statements demonstrate
    a
    lack of comprehension of Silbrico’s
    requests, so
    Silbrico will
    address those statements
    in
    order to clarify the
    record.
    The
    Attorney
    General
    claims
    that
    Silbrico
    has
    made
    inconsistent
    statements
    about the
    need for
    the
    site-specific rule
    if the
    variance
    is granted,
    and
    vice
    versa.
    This
    is
    incorrect.
    Silbrico’s
    variance
    petition
    seeks
    alternate
    relief:
    either
    1)
    a
    finding
    that
    Silbrico’s
    two perlite waste
    streams
    are analogous to CCDD,
    and can
    be disposed of
    in
    a
    CCDD operation, or 2)
    a variance which would temporarily allow Silbrico to so dispose
    of
    those
    waste
    streams
    while
    the
    site-specific
    is
    pending.
    The first
    request
    is
    in
    the
    nature
    of
    a
    declaratory
    judgment,
    which
    has
    long
    been
    an
    accepted
    request
    in
    a
    variance
    petition.
    If,
    and
    only
    if,
    the
    Board
    should
    grant
    the
    first
    requested
    relief
    (a
    finding
    that
    the
    waste
    streams
    are
    analogous to
    CCDD
    and
    can
    be
    disposed
    of
    as
    such), that
    relief would
    be
    a
    permanent
    declaration,
    and
    the site-specific
    rule would
    be
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    unnecessary.
    If,
    however,
    the
    Board
    does
    not
    grant that first
    requested
    relief,
    Silbrico
    has sought
    the
    temporary relief
    of a
    variance,
    while the
    site-specific rule
    is pending.
    In
    that case,
    the
    site-specific
    petition would
    be
    necessary.
    This
    is
    merely
    the concept
    of
    alternative
    relief.
    CONCLUSION
    The Board has the
    authority to grant Silbrico’s
    requested
    site-specific.
    Therefore,
    the
    motion to dismiss
    must
    be denied.
    Respectfully submitted,
    SILBRICO
    CORPORATION
    C-
    By:
    ne
    of its
    attorne
    s
    Dated:
    November 22,
    2005
    Elizabeth
    S.
    Harvey
    Michael
    J. Maher
    Swanson,
    Martin &
    Bell,
    LLP
    One IBM
    Plaza,
    Suite
    3300
    330 North Wabash Avenue
    Chicago,
    Illinois
    60611
    Telephone:
    (312)
    321-9100
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