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CLERK’S OFRCE
MAY
2004
BEFORE THE ILLINOIS POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD
STATE OF ILLU~OIS
PofluVon Contrd 8oarc~
IN THE MATTER OF:
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PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO
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R04-22
REGULATIONS OF PETROLEUM
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(Rulemaking
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LEAKING UNDERGROUND STORAGE)
TANKS (35 ILL. ADM. CODE 732)
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PRE-FILED QUESTIONS FOR THE ILLINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION AGENCY ON BEHALF OF
THE ILLINOIS SOCIETY OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS REGARDING
THE AGENCY’S PROPOSAL
TO AMEND 35 ILL. ADM. CODE 732
1. Background
My name is Kim Robinson.
I am the Executive Director of the Iffinois Society of
Professional Engineers (ISPE). The Illinois Society of Professional Engineers (ISPE) is an
association of more than 2000 Professional Engineers (P.E.’s), Engineers-in-training (EIT’s)
and engineering students. ISPE members have interest in the instant proceeding insofar as
the Agency proposal has the potential to impact their employment and the manner in which
they conduct their professional activities. The questions herein are directed to the Agency,
in general, and not to any one individual.
2. Questions
For The
Agency
A. The Agency has testified that in the past fifteen years it “...has approved over half a
billion dollars in reimbursement ( Clay, Tr. P-17, 23).” As a means to gauge the
significance and impact of the Agency’s proposal, but recognizing that a precise
accounting may not exist, can the Agency provide at least a rough estimate of the how
the funds were distributed?
What percentage of the funds was dispersed to
engineers/consultants, to excavation contractors, to laboratories, to landfills, to truckers,
and to cement contractors/payers? By determining this, it may demonstrate that the
portion of reimbursement monies being distributed for consulting is, in many cases, a
small fraction of the project costs.
B. What approximate fraction of LUST remediation is accomplished by “TACOing
out” versus conventional “dig and haul” versus “pump and treat” or other alternative
technologies?
C.
The Agency presents data and statistics for cost associated with excavation,
transportation, disposal, backfill, and personnel. Is this data gathered from a pool of
reimbursement packages submitted to the Agency
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to Agency review and approval,
or from a pool of approved reimbursements?
D. English Common Law, the basis for much of current law in the United States,
recognizes only four groups of professionals: the clergy, attorneys-at-law, physicians,
and architects/engineers. Society does not constrain the clergy in their practices, limit
the efforts of defense counsel, or prescribe to physicians the length of time that may be
devoted to a surgical operation. Per this rulemaking, does the Agency propose to limit
the amount of reimbursable time that a licensed professional engineer may devote to the
investigation and remedial design of LUST incidents?
Respectfully submitted,
Robins n
Executive Director
Illinois Society of Professional Engineers
DATE: May 4, 2004
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PROOF OF SERVICE
I, the undersigned, on oath state that I have served the attached Pre-filed questions to
the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency on behalf of the Illinois Society of Professional
Engineers upon the person to whom it is directed, by placing a copy in an envelope addressed
to:
Dorothy Gunn, Clerk
Illinois Pollution Control Board
James R. Thompson Center
110 West Randolph, Suite 11-500
Chicago, Illinois 60601
(Overnight Mail)
SEE ATTACHED SERVICE LIST
(Regular Mail)
Marie Tipsord, Hearing Officer
Illinois Pollution Control Board
James R. Thompson Center
110 West Randolph, Suite 11-500
Chicago, Illinois 60601
(Overnight Mail)
and mailing it from Springfield, Illinois, on May
5,
2004, with sufficient postage affixed as
indicated above.
SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN TO BEFORE ME
this 5~day of May, 2004
4Kim Ro1~inson,Executive Director
Illinois Society of Professional Engineers
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Party Name
Role
City &
Phone/Fax
State
IEPA
1021 North Grand Avenue East
Springfield 217/782-
Petitioner
P.O.
Box 19276
IL 62794- 5544
9276
217/782-
9807
Gina Roccaforte, Assistant
Counsel
Kyle Rominger, Assistant
Counsel
Doug Clay
Hod~eDwver Zeman
3150 Roland Avenue
Springfield 2
17/523-
Interested Party
Post
Office
Box
5776
IL 62705- 4900
5776
217/523-
4948
Thomas G. Safley
Sidley Austin Brown
Bank One Plaza
Chicago
312/853-
& Wood
10 South
Dearborn Street
IlL 60603 7000
Interested Party
312/953-
7036
William G. Dickett
Kara2anis & White,
414 North Orleans Street
Chicago
312/836-
Ltd.
Suite 810
IL 6061.0 1177
Interested
Party
312/836-
9083
Barbara Magel
Illinois Petroleum
112 West Cook Street
Springfield 217/793-
Marketers
IL
62704 1858
Association
Interested
Party
Bill
Fleischi
United Science
P.O. Box
360
Woodlawn 618/735-
Industriesq Inc.
6295
East
illinois Highway 15
IL 62898-
2411
Interested
Party
0360
618/735-
2907
Joe Kelly, PE
Illinois
3150 Roland Avenue
Springfield 217/523-
Environmental
IL
62703 4942
Re~u1atorvGroun
2
17/523-
Interested Party
4948
Robert A. Messina, General
Counsel
Carlson
65
E. Wacker Place
Chicago
Environmental, Inc.
Suite 1500
IL 60601
Interested Party
Kenneth James
Chemical Industry
9801 W. Higgins Road
Rosemont
Council of Illinois
Suite
515
IL 60018
Interested Party
Lisa Frede
Barnes & Thornbur~
1 North Wacker Drive
Chicago
3 12/357-
Interested Party
Suite
4400
IL 60606 1313
312/759-
5646
Carolyn
S.
Hesse, Attorney
Rapps Engineering
& 821 South
Durkin Drive
Springfield 2 17/787-
Applied Science
P.O. Box 7349
IL 62791- 2118
Interested Party
7349
217/787-
6641
Michael W. Rapps
Office of the Attorney
Environmental Bureau
Chicago
3 12/814-
General
188
West
Randolph, 20th Floor
IL 60601 2550
Interested Party
312/814-
2347
Joel J. Sternstein, Assistant
Attorney Genera
Herlacher An2leton
8731 Bluff
Road
Waterloo
618/935-
Associates,
LLC
IL 62298 2262
Interested
Party
618/935-
2694
Tom Herilacher, P.E.,
Principal
Engineer
Illinois Pollution
100 W. Randolph St.
Chicago 3128143956
Control Board
Suite 11-500
IL 60601
Interested
Party
Dorothy M. Gunn, Clerk of the
Board
Marie Tipsord, Hearing Officer
Terrence W. Dixon, PG.
Illinois Department of
2300 Dirksen Parkway
Springfield
Transportation
IL 62764
Interested Party
Steven Gobelman
SEECO
7350
Duvon Drive
Tinley
Environmental
Park
Services, Inc,
IL
60477
Interested Party
Collin W. Gray
Herlacher An~Ieton
522 Belle Street
Alton
Associates, LLC
IL 62002
Interested
Party
Jennifer Goodman
United
119 East Palatin Road
Palatine
Environmental
Suite 101
IL 60067
Consultants, Inc.
Interested
Party
George F. Moncek
McGuire Woods LLP
77 W.
Wacker
Chicago
Interested Party
Suite 4400
IL
60601
David Rieser
Greensfelder, Hemker
10 S. Broadway
St.
Louis 314-241-
& Gale
Suite 2000
MO
9090
Interested
Party
63104
Tina Archer, Attorney
Midwest
En2ineerjn2 4243 W. 166th Street
Oak
Forest 708-535-
Services,
Inc,
IL 60452 9981
Interested
Party
Erin Curley, Env. Department
Manager
American
3700 W. Grand Ave., Suite A
Springfield (217)
585-
Environmental
Corp.
IL 62707 9517
Interested
Party
Ken Miller, Regional Manager
Applied
POBox
1225
Centralia 6185335953
Environmental
IL
62801
Solutions. Inc.
Interested
Party
Russ Goodiel, Project Manager
Secor International,
400 Bruns Lane
Springfield
mc,
IL 62702
Interested Party
Daniel
J. Goodwin
Caterpillar, Inc
100 NE Adams Street
Peoria
3096751658
Interested
Party
IL 61629
Eric
Minder, Sr. Environmental
Engineer
K-Plus
Suite 1000
Chicago 312-207-
Environmental
600 W. Van Buren Street
IL 60607 1600
Interested
Party
Daniel Caplice
Priseq:t~ ~ ~
P.C. Claire A. Manning
Springfield, IL62705
111 N. Sixth Street
Illinois Society of Kim Robinson
Springfield, IL 62704
Professional Engineers Brittan Bolin
300 West Edwards
Joseph W. Truesdale, P.E.
CORE Geolo2ical
2621 Monetga, Suite C
Springfield 2 17-787-
Services,
Inc.
II 62704
6109
Interested
Party
Ron Dye, President
Clayton Group
3140 Finley Road
Downers
630.795.3207
Services Inc
Grove
Interested Party
IL 60515
Monte Nienkerk
PDC
Laboratories
2231
W. AltorferDr.
Peoria
309-692-
Interested Party
il
61615
9688
Kurt
Stepping, Director of Client
Services
Atwell-Hicks, Inc.
940 East Diehi Road
Naperville 630 5770800
Interested
Party
Sute 100
IL
60563
Thomas
M. Guist,
PE, Team
Leader
CW3M Company.
701
South
Grand Ave.
West
Springfield 2 17-522-
Inc.
IL 62704 8001
Interested
Party
Jeff Wienhoff
Suburban
4140 Lift Drive
Hillside
708-544-
Laboratories, Inc,
IL 60162 3260
Interested
Party
Jarrett Thomas,
V.P.
United Science
6295
East illinois
Hwy
15
Woodlawn 6
18-735-
Industries, Inc,
IlL
62898 2411 e
Interested Party
Dan
King,
Team
Leader
Environmental
551
Roosevelt Road
Glenn
Consult~t&
#309
Ellyn
En2ineerin~.
Inc,
IL 60137
Interested
Party
Richard Andros,
P.E.
MACTEC
8901 N.
Industrial Road
Peoria
Engineering &
IL
61615
Consulting, Inc.
Interested
Party
Huff & Huff, Inc.
512 West Burlington Avenue
LaGrange
Interested
Party
Suite 100
IL
60525
James E. Huff, P.E.
Black & Veatch
101 North Wacker Drive
Chicago
Interested
Party
Suite 1100
IL 60606
Scott Anderson
Claire A. Manning
111 N. Sixth Street
Springfield 217-522-
Interested
Party
IL 62701
6152
Claire A. Manning, Posegate &
Denes
Marlin
1000 West Spring Street
South
847-468-
Environmental, Inc.
Elgin
8855
Interested
Party
IL
60177
Melanie LoPiccolo, Office
Manager
Terracon
870 40th Avenue
Bettendorf
(563) 355-
Interested
Party
IA 52722 0702
Brian Porter
Illinois Department of
One Natural Resources Way
Springfield 2 17/782-
Natural Resources
IL 62702- 1809
Interested Party
1271
217/524-
9640
Jonathan Furr, General Counsel
EcoDigital
P0 Box 360
Woodlawn (618) 735-
Development LLC
6295 East illinois Hwy 15
IL 62898 2411
Interested
Party
Joe Kelly, VP
Engineering
Wendler
Engineering 1770 West State Street
Sycamore 8
15-895-
Services,
Inc.
IL 60178 5008
Interested Party
Glen Lee, Manager
Great
Lakes
1380 Busch Parkway
Buffalo (847) 808-
Analytical
Grove
7766
Interested
Party
IL
60089
A.J Pavlick
CSD Environmental
2220 Yale Boulevard
Springfield 2 17-522-
Services,
Inc
IL 62703 4085
Interested
Party
