ILLIMOIS POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD
September 20,
 1984
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CHEMICAL
CO~,INC.,
Petitioner,
v.
 )
 PCB 84—51
)
tT:LINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL
 )
PROTECTION AGENCY,
 )
Respondent.
MR. BRUCE L. WALD, TISHLER & WALD,
 LTD. APPEARED ON BEHALF
 OF’
 T~I1~
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CHEMICAL CO., INC.;
MR. DONALD L. GIMBEL, ATTORNEY-AT-LAW, APPEARED ON BEHALF
OF
 THE
ILLINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY.
OPINION AND ORDER OF THE BOARD
 (by J. 0.
 Dumelle):
This matter comes before the Board upon an April
 25, 1984,
petition for variance filed on behalf of the Southern California
Chemical Company
 (SCC) requesting variance from the manifest
requirements of 35
 Ill. Mm.
 Code 809, or alternatively, that the
proceeding be dismissed as unnecessary.
 On May
 29,
 1984,
the
Illinois Environmental Protection Agency
 (Agency) filed a recom-
mendation that variance by denied and a request for hearing.
Hearing was held on August 2,
 1984, at which the parties appeared
and
 two witnesses testified.
SCC is the original manufacturer and formulator of ammoniacal
etching solutions which are supplied to its customers essentially
copper—free.
 There are no organics or acids used in the proprietary,
patented formulations
 (U.S.
 Patent No.
 3,705,061) which have
been
developed to be reused and to be valuable at all stages during
treatment.
 These ammoniacal etching solutions are used by SCC~s
customers at their facilities in automatically controlled etching
systems, utilizing SCC—supplied chemical monitoring and replenish-
ment equipment.
 After they are used to remove copper from
printed
circuit boards,
 the copper-laden solutions are returned to 5CC
via SCC—supplied returnable deposit containers,
 or leased railcars
and trucks.
 The copper-bearing solutions are routinely picked up
at the time delivery of “fresh” product is made.
 On receipt
of
these solutions at the Company’s Union plantsite,
 the copper
 is
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removed from these solutions using a closed—loop Liquid Ion
Exchange System.
 The recovered copper
 is processed into copper
sulfate and sold as a normal
 item of commerce,
 The ammoniacal
etching solutions, depleted of copper,
 are chemically adjusted to
compensate for loss due to evaporation during customer use and
are resold as “fresh” ammoniacal etching solution,
 All of the
copper—laden solutions returned to SCC are either regenerated
 in
this manner or directly sold by SCC to customers in other indus-
tries.
 The value of the spent etchant exceeds the value of the
fresh etchant.
SCC contends that there are no wastes generated in this
totally closed-loop system and the only waste products that might
be generated at the facility would come from plant clean-up or
routine container washing.
 These wash waters are held for batch
neutralization and then periodically disposed of according to the
appropriate regulations.
 SCC argues that the Board’s decision
 in
this case should be controlled by
§~
 -Kleen
 Corp.
 v,EPA
 (PCB
80—12,
 37
 PCB
 363, February
 7,
 1980; affirmed by the Illinois
Appellate Court,
 2nd District, No.
 80-650, January
 4,
 1982.)
 On
the other hand, the Agency takes the position that after the
etchant sold by SCC to its customers is used,
 it becomes a
special waste and is thus subject to the manifest requirements
 of
35 Ill. Adm,
 Code 809.
 Furthermore, because the waste is
hazardous,
 the waste is subject to the manifest regulations in
 3
Ill. Adm. Code 722.120 to 722.123.
The Board agrees with the Petitioner that this case is
controlled by the
§~
~-K1een
 decision.
 The Agency’s reasoning
in this case is based on the same faulty assumption which was
rejected in the ~~-Kleen
 case,
 As the Appelate Court in
Saf~~ieenstated:
“The Agency
 posed
 the question of whether or
 riot
wastes cease
 to
 be wastes under Chapter
 9 of the waste
regulations
 if they are destined to be recycled.
 This,
however,
 is not the proper inquiry on the facts in this
case,
 Rather the threshold
 question
 is whether or not
the materials in issue are
 “wastes” in the first place.”
(Ill._E.P.A.
 v.
 Ill. Pollution_Control Board and Safety-
&flT~~1T~
 Co~t
 nd~TstrjCt,
 No.
80—650, January
 4,
 1982,)
The Agency attempts to distinguish this case on the basis that
P,A,
 82-380 amended the Environmental Protection Act definition
of “hazardous waste” which was in effect at the time Safe~~K1een
was decided.
 (See Respondent’s Brief In Lieu of Closing Argument.)
The Board finds that this is
 “a distinction without a difference”
since, as stated in Safet~y—K1een,
one doesn’t
 get to the question
of whether there is either a “special” or a “hazardous” waste
until
 it is determined that a “waste”
 is involved in the first
R(1~
 IAiL
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place.
 Similarly,
 the Agency’s arguments relating to the RCRA
hazardous waste delisting requirements are premature and irrelevant,*
Having stated that this case is controlled by Safe~y~leen,
we will nonetheless review the reasoning in that case in order to
clarify the factors to be considered in a case involving the “Is
there a waste?” question.
 To determine whether a “waste”
 is
involved, we turn to the definition of “waste” in 35
 111. Adm.
Code 809.103:
“Waste”
 means any garbage,
 refuse,
 sludge
 from a waste
treatment
 plant,
 water
 supply
 treatment
 plant,
 or
 air
pollution control facility or other discarded material,
including
 solid,
 liquid,
 semi—solid,
 or contained gas-
eous
 material
 resulting
 from
 industrial,
 commercial,
mining and agricultural operations,
 and
 from community
activities.
 “Waste”
 as
 here defined
 does
 not include
solid
 or
 dissolved
 material
 in
 domestic
 sewage,
 or
solid or dissolved material in irrigation return flows,
or
 in
 industrial
 discharges
 which
 are
 point
 sources
 subject
 to
 permits
 under
 Section
 402
 of
 the
 Federal
Water
 Pollution
 Control
 Act,
 33
 U.S.C.,
 par.
 1251
 et
seq.; or source,
 special nuclear, or byproduct material
as defined by the Atomic Energy Act of 1954,
 42
U.S.C.,
par.
 2001 et
 seq.;
 or
 radioactive materials discarded
in
 accordance with the provisions
 of
 “Illinois Revised
Statutes,
 1977,
 Chapter
 111½,
 par.
 230.1 et seq.” ap-
proved
 August
 16,
 1963,
 as
 now
 or
 hereafter
 amended,
and
 as
 authorized by
 regulations
 promulgated
 pursuant
to
 the
 “Radiation
 Protection
 Act,”
 Iii,
 Rev.
 Stat,,
1977,
 Ch.
 111½
 par.
 211
 et
 seq.;
 as
 now or hereafter
amended.
 “Waste
 as
 here
 defined
 is
 intended
 to
 be
consistent
 with
 the
 definition
 of
 “solid
 waste”
 set
forth
 in Section
 1004(27)
 of resource Conservation and
 Recovery Act of
 1976, U.S.C., par. 6901 et seq.
Since the spent etchant does not fit into any of the enumer-
ated categories
 in this definition,
 the question is whether it is
“other discarded material.”
 In Safe~y~Kleenthe Board articulated
the standard that something “destined to be reused” is not “dis-
carded.”
 The Board’s finding that the product involved was
“destined to be reused” was based on the unique facts in that
case,
 i.e.,
 that the company involved maintained ownership over
the solvent and maintained control over the solvent at all stages.
*For the record, the Board notes that both the federal and
state RCRA regulations exempt from regulation “hazardous waste”
which is “being beneficially used or reused or legitmately recycled
or reclaimed.”
 See 35
 Ill, Adm, Code 721,106(a)(1) and
 40 CFR.
IEPA concedes this point in its “Brief In Lieu of Closing Argument.”
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The question, then,
 is whether SCC maintains ownership and
control over the etchant in question in this case,
 Contrary to
the allegation of the Agency that the Petitioner has failed to
prove ownership of the spent etchant, Petitioner presented
evidence that the contract price for the use of its solvent
 is
conditioned on
 “all
 spent material generated being the property
of Southern California Chemical Co.,
 Inc.”
 (See Petitioner’s
Group Exhibit No,
 1,)
 SCC states that the one instance
 in which
it has sold the etchant without maintaining ownership of the
spent etchant involves a customer which itself recycles the
etchant and,
 again,
 there is no “waste” involved,
 (Petitioner’s
Renly to Agency’s Recommendation and Request for Hearing,
 p.
 2.)
While the transaction involved is characterized as a “sale”,
SCC retains a property right in and responsibility for the
etchant before and after its use.
 In light of a lack of any
evidence to the contrary,
 this is sufficient
 for the Board to
find that 8CC retains control over the etchant.
 We note that
 in
this situation the etchant remains within a “closed loop” system
which tracks the spent etchant in a manner that meets the purposes
of the manifest system.
 Any etchant that does not remain within
the closed loop system presents a different question which
 is not
within the scope of this particular inquiry.
The Board, therefore, concludes that SCC~sspent etchant
when it is returned to 8CC is not a waste,
 and that it is, there-
fore, not subject to the manifest requirements of
 35
 Ill, Adm.
Code 809 and that the variance petition should be denied as
unnecessary.
This Opinion constitutes the Board~sfindings of
 .fact and
conclusions of law in this matter.
Southern California Chemical Company’s request for variance
from the manifest requirements of 35 Ill.
 Adm. Code 809 is hereby
denied as unnecessary.
IT IS SO ORDERED,
I, Dorothy H. Gunn, Clerk of the Illinois Pollution Control
Board, hereby certify that the above Opinion and Order was
adopted oi~the~D~~day of~~
 ,
 1984 by a vote
Dorothy H.
 Gunn, Clerk
Illinois Pollution Control Board