1. RECEIVED
      2. Section 309.107
      3. Section 309.108(e)
      4. Section 309.110(1)
      5. Section 309.113
      6. Section 309.120
      7. Sections 309.121 and 309.122
      8. Section 309.143
      9. Section 309.146
      10. CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
      11. Comments Of The Attainable Housing Alliance and The Home Builders Association of
      12. ServiceList

BEFORE
THE ILLINOIS POLLUTION CONTROL BOARDRECE~VEE~
CLERK’S
OFFICE
JUN
1620
IN THE MATTER OF:
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STATE OF ILLINOIS
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
TO
)
PollutiOfl
Con tro! Board
PART 309
SUBPART
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)
35
Iii. Adm. Code 309.105, 309.7, 309.8,
)
R03-19
309.9, 309.10, 309.12, 309.13, 309.14
)
(NPDES Rulemaking)
309.117,
109.119, 309.143, 309.147; and
)
PROPOSED 35111. Adm. Code 120 through
)
122-NPDES PERMITS AND
PERMITTING
PROCEDURES
)
NOTICE OF FILING
TO:
SEE ATTACHED SERVICE LIST
PLEASE
TAKE NOTICE that
on Monday, June
16,
2003, we filed the attached Joint
Comments
Of The
Attainable
Housing
Alliance
and
The
Home
Builders
Association
of
Illinois with the Clerk of the Illinois Pollution
Control Board,
a copy ofwhich is herewith served
upon you.
Respectfully submitted,
ATTAINABLE HOUSING ALLIANCE AND
HOME BUThDERS ASSOCIATION OF ILLINOIS
BY:~
~
Sheila H. Deely
Sheila H. Deely
GARDNER, CARTON
&
DOUGLAS
191 N. Wacker Drive
-
Suite 3700
Chicago, Illinois
60606-1698
(312)
569-1440

RECEIVED
BEFORE THEILLINOISPOLLUTIONCONTROL BOARD
CLERK’S
(~FFIr~
JUN
162003
IN
THE MATTER OF:
)
STATE OF iLLINOIS
Pollution
Control Board
PROPOSEDAMENDMENTS TO:
)
R03-19
PART 309 SUBPARTA
-
)
35
Ill. Adm. Code 309. 105, 309.7, 309.8,
)
309.117, 309.119, 309.143, 309.147; and
)
PROPOSED
35
Ill. Adm. Code 120 through
)
122
-
NPDES PERMITSAND PERMITTING)
PROCEDURES
)
JOINTCOMMENTS
OF
THE ATTAINABLE HOUSING ALLIANCE
AND
THE
HOME
BUILDERSASSOCIATION
OF ILLINOIS
The Attainable Housing Alliance (“AHA”) and the Home Builders Association of
Illinois
(“HBAI”) submit the following comments on the rulemaking proposal filed in this
docket by the Environmental Law
and Policy Center of the Midwest and its co-petitioners
(“Petitioners”) proposing revisions
to
public participation rules
governing the issuance of
NPDES permits
by the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency (“IEPA”).
HBAI is comprised of thousands of member firms
from local
associations in every
geographic region of the State and is affiliated
with the National Association of Home
Builders.
Member firms ofHBAI include homebuilders, developers,
remodelers,
suppliers,
subcontractors, and
other affiliated businesses.
HBAI advocates the concept of attainable
quality
housing for all
residents of the State of Illinois.
AHA presently represents over
800 members of the Northern
Illinois Home Builders
Association,
the Home Builders Association of the Greater Fox Valley and
the Home Builders
Association of Greater Chicago.
AHA was formed
to provide a unified voice for the building
industry in the eight-county metro area, including Chicago.
The goal of AHA is to represent

the housing industry on public policy
issues that affect
the attainability and ownership of
housing.
AHA believes that the subject of this rulemaking is one
such issue.
HBAI and AHA understand that various
parties have been involved with Petitioners
in
discussions concerning these rules.
Neither HBAI nor AHA had the opportunity to
become
involved in these discussions.
AHA’s and HBAI’s members are directly affected by this
rulemaking in two ways:
first, homebuilders are required to obtain NPDES permits
for
discharges of stormwater from construction activities.
This
permit is typically
a general
permit,
which is
subject to rules concerning public notice at the time the general permit is
issued by IEPA;
second, homebuilders are required to obtain services from the publicly
owned wastewater treatment facilities that themselves obtain
NPDES permits.
HBAI and AHA strongly support public participation in a transparent decision-making
process by the Illinois
EPA,
so long as the requirements
to be applied during
that decision-
making process are transparent and
authorized by law,
and so long as participation is not used
as a means to
delay or thwart the decision-making process, to
impede growth, or to impose
burdensome new requirements that are not required by law.
HBAI and AHA are,
however,
familiar with the use of environmental rules to
stymie
growth or for NIMBY purposes,
including
in the current Facility Planning Area process, and HBAI and AHA are extremely
concerned
that the rules proposed by Petitioners are directed not at allowing effective public
participation but at facilitating the same types of frivolous challenges aimed at limiting or
thwarting permittees and their users.
Part of the purpose of promulgating rules governing public
participation is to balance
the interests of the regulated party in continuing to perform legal activities
with the interest of
the public in receiving information
on the rules
and regulations applicable to proposed
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activities.
The rules proposed by Petitioners would shift this balance, resulting
in an unfair
burden
and delay on regulated parties and their activities,
with no justification or identification
of any deficiency in the existing rules.
Petitioners
point to the public’s interest
in reviewing
effluent limits
and monitoring provisions as the reason for these rules.
It is important to
remember that the substantive provisions
in NPDES permits
are derived from regulations that
are themselves subject to public notice
and
comment,
and
where the public believes that a
permit
has been issued in violation of a legal
requirement, it has ample opportunity to
challenge that permit.
The existing procedural rules
are
routinely
abused by Petitioners.
HBAI and AHA
concur with other commenters that the proponents of this proceeding have utilized procedural
rules and the threat of objections to proposed NPDES permits
and requests for public
hearings,
as well as the actual public hearing process itself,
to negotiate monitoring requirements,
effluent limitations,
load restrictions,
flow diversions
and other requirements not presently
required by the Clean Water Act, the Illinois
Environmental Protection Act or existing Board
regulations.
This tactic has been most successful when a POTW is faced with an urgent need
to begin construction because of new significant development in its
service area.
By in essence
holding the permit hostage, environmental groups have attempted to extract concessions not
required by
existing regulations.
The Petitioners now seek to strengthen their arsenal with
unending public cOmment periods and requests for public hearings in order
to
further stymie
expansion of POTWs.
These proposed rules are not
required by
rules allowing public
participation nor are they necessary to
fulfill the requirements of public notice.
These
requirements would involve a substantial cost to the State of Illinois
at a time of severe budget
crisis and a cost
to permittees in a poor ec6nomy, as well as a negative impact on
the regulated
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community by delaying the construction of needed new treatment facilities to accommodate
growth.
HBAI and AHA concur with other commenters
that vague and unclear
standards
and
guidance documents of U.S.
EPA are not an appropriate basis
for a regulatory standard.
These guidance documents have not themselves been adopted by
U.S.
EPA
and
are not
intended to bind states issuing
NPDES permits.
Further, U.S.
EPA’s approval of the existing
NPDES procedural rules shows that there
is no
deficiency in the current rules,
as claimed by
the
Petitioners.
Indeed,
the hearings in
this matter are replete with statements by
Petitioners
that IEPA
is already providing the information that Petitioners
believe to be
necessary.
Petitioners
routinely comment on NPDES permits
and
have a current mechanism available to
allow for public hearings, which are routinely
granted by the IEPA.
HBAI
and
AHA believe
that
Petitioners have received ample opportunity
to obtain
information on proposed permits and
participate in the permit issuance process.
That Petitioners now have an opportunity to pursue
third-party challenges,
which enlarges their powers with respect to permits, does not justify
making the public hearing process more burdensome,
costly, and subject to abuse.
Although HBAI and
AHA object to this rulemaking as a whole as wholly unwarranted
and not justified by Petitioners,
HBAI and AHA specifically
object to the following provisions:
Sections
309.105(1)
and (g)
HBAI and AHA concurs with the IEPA that these sections are repetitive and
unnecessary and provide little in the way of substantive legal guidance
and HBAI and AHA
object to
providing regulations that do
not themselves
identify substantive requirements.
The
most these provisions do
is provide Petitioners
with the opportunity
to add procedural
roadblocks and thereby delay or challenge issuance of a permit with argument about whether
4

they have had
a fair opportunity to comment on
a permit or the consistency of the permit with
applicable
federal law.
Petitioners admitted as much in their characterization ofthese sections
at the hearing as intended for the purpose of providing a
“handle” for the Board to
overturn
rulings, which Petitioners believe to be the reason for the adverse decision in the
Black Beauty
case.
Further,
HBAI and AHA believe that the examples provided at the hearing of legitimate
things that can “go
wrong” in a permit proceeding
can be easily addressed using
current
regulations
and existing principles of administrative review.
Section
309.107
HBAI and AHA believe that this
provision is unnecessary and does not know what
interest Petitioners
have in the Illinois
Department of Natural Resources’
(IDNR)
notification
or what role IDNR has to play in the NPDES permit process.
Petitioners testified that IEPA
should
call upon all of the “biological
expertise” that
is
available to it.
Like IEPA, IDNR is
a
creation of statute and cannot exercise any power not granted by the legislature.
To the extent
IDNR has an interest authorized by
statute in the subject of an NPDES permit,
it should have
its
own authority
to
impose requirements on that activity
directly.
In the alternative, the
interest of IDNR
in commenting on a proposed permit should be clearly stated, just as the
interest of the Army Corps of Engineers is
clearly stated in subdivision
(a) of this
same
section.
To
the extent IDNR does not have a legal interest in the subject of an activity,
it is
not legally entitled
to
specific notification
pursuant to Board
rules.
Further,
as to the wording proposed by the IEPA, the language
is unclear in the
reference to
a memorandum of agreement between IDNR and IEPA.
Clarification is necessary
as to whether a separate memorandum of agreement is
a condition to the notification
requirement,
is intended to
limit the notification requirement,
or is intended to further define
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coordination between the agencies.
HBAI
and AHA further note that to the extent further
coordination imposes any
requirements on the applicant or purports to allow IDNR to comment
on any
aspect of an NPDES
permit, this requirement must be authorized by statute and subject
to notice and comment.
Section 309.108(e)
HBAI and AHA believe that this provision is
substantially burdensome and not required
by
law.
This
language has been recognized by many commenters as an attempt to shift the
burden of proof in a permit challenge from the Petitioners and
other permit
challengers to
IEPA and, as a practical matter, the permittee.
This
is a result to
which
HBAI and AHA
strongly object.
The Agency
is already obligated to
compile an administrative record.
Further, while HBAI
and AHA have
no objection to the counter-provision in IEPA’s
comments,
HBAI
and AHA believe this
provision is not necessary
and does not support the
need for a rulemaking.
The administrative record is typically made up of everything before the
IEPA (or any
other administrative agency), including those
documents relied on by
the IEPA.
Section 309.110(1)
HBAI
and AHA concur with the comments of other parties that the information that
purported
to be solicited by this provision
is generally included in the Agency’s public notices.
Notwithstanding,
the provision drafted by
Petitioners goes beyond the federal
requirements that
Petitioners purport require the proposed language.
Further,
HBAI and AHA believe that clear
requirements of statute
and regulations
applied in a transparent manner should govern
issuance
of permits,
and
not public comments
or procedures.
Further, HBAI and AHA with other
commenters that these comments
are vague as written and
appear likely to be a basis
for
further procedural challenges and delays on issuance of permits.
6

Section 309.113
The Petitioners
have added six new requirements
to this
subsection.
HBAI and AHA
believe they are not required by
law or are not necessary for procedural rules.
HBAI
and
AHA concur with the IEPA that proposed section
(a)(5)
is repetitive and unnecessary.
Subdivisions
(a)(6) through (a)(9) appear intended to impose burdensome procedural
requirements on IEPA and, consequently,
on permittees.
Section
309.117
HBAI and
AHA believe this
section is not
necessary, as the administrative record is
defined by
law, not the IEPA or the public, and
already includes every document
identified in
this
section.
Section 309.120
Petitioners propose to require the public
commenter as well as permit applicants to
“raise all reasonably ascertainable
issues
and submit all
reasonably available arguments
supporting their position by the close of the public comment period.”
Like many of the other
proposed changes, this section is not necessary, as the burden on applicants and commenters
for purposes of the administrative record is defined by law, not the IEPA or the public.
Further,
HBAI and AHA concur with other commenters that there is
a fundamental difference
between the permittee and commenters both during the permitting process and administrative
review,
and HBAI and
AHA note that these rules are intended to govern public
participation,
not the permittee,
who cannot reasonably be termed a member of the public
for its
own
application.
Finally, HBAI
and AHA strongly object to
the provision allowing extension ofthe
public comment period and the particularly lenient standard that is
sought to govern requested
extensions,
which would be easily manipulated
and likely to lead to unacceptable delays.
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Sections 309.121
and 309.122
These sections proposed by Petitioners are intended to
reopen the public
comment
period
allowing a new series of public
comments and responses.
HBAI and AHA strongly
object to
these sections, which are overly broad
and confusing,
and will result in turning the
process of issuance ofan NPDES permit into a public
negotiation rather than a process
governed by substantive regulations that have themselves been issued with public notice
and
comment.
Public participation requirements are intended primarily to provide the public with
information and to ensure that the public has a reasonable opportunity to
comment, but the
requirements should
not allow this participation to the detriment of the rights of applicants to
proceed with
their activities
in
a reasonable time.
These proposed sections would infringe on
the rights of permittees by causing undue delay in permit issuance and expense to both the
JEPA
and
permittees.
Section 309.143
HBAI
and AHA believe that this provision is unnecessary in light of the current
provision found at 309. 141(d)(1).
HBAI and AHA concur
with other commenters that
Petitioners appear to be proposing this language for the purpose of bolstering likely future
challenges to
NPDES permits rather than facilitating effective public participation.
Section 309.146
HBAI
and AHA concur with other cornmenters that these provisions have not been
justified by the Petitioners and are not warranted by
existing law.
Petitioners have not
provided
any context or real deficiencies to support their claims that the current procedural
rules are insufficient for purposes of compliance.
These provisions
appear again to
be
proposed for the purpose of bolstering
likely
future challenges to NPDES permits.
8

Respectfully submitted,
ATTAINABLE HOUSING ALLIANCE AND
HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION OF ILLINOIS
By:____________
Sheila H. Deely,
Counsel for Attainable Housing Alliance
and Home Builders Association ofIllinois
Sheila
H. Deely
GARDNER CARTON & DOUGLAS LLC
191
N. Wacker Drive
-
Suite 3700
Chicago, Illinois
60606-1698
(312) 569-1440
CHO1 /12293787.1
9

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
The undersigned certifies that
a copy of the
foregoing
Notice of Filing
Joint
Comments Of The Attainable Housing Alliance and The Home Builders Association of
Illinois
were filed by hand delivery with the Clerk of the Illinois Pollution Control Board and served
upon the parties to whom said Notice
is directed by first class mail, postage prepaid, by depositing in the
U.S. Mail at 191
North Wacker Drive,
Chicago, Illinois on Monday, June
16, 2003.
Sheila H. Deely
CH01112295040.
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Fredric P. Andes
Barnes & Thornburg
2600 Chase Plaza
10 South LaSalle Street
Chicago, IL
60603
Larry
Cox
Downers Grove Sanitary District
2710
Curtiss Street
Downers Grove, IL
60515
John Donahue
City
ofGeneva
1800 South Street
Geneva, IL
60134
Mathew
Dunn
Illinois Attorney General’s Office
James R.
ThompsonCenter
100WestRandolph Street
Chicago, IL
60601
Susan Franzetti
Sonnenschein
Nath& Rosenthal
8000 SearsTower
Chicago, IL
60606
Dorothy
Gunn
Pollution Control Board
100 WestRandolph, Suite 11-500
Chicago, IL
60601
Roy M.
Harsch
Gardner, Carton & Douglas
191
N.
Wacker
Drive,
Suite3700
Chicago,
IL
60606
Katherine Hodge
Hodge,
Dwyer, Zeman
3150
Roland Avenue
P.O.
Box 5776
Springfield,
IL
62705-5776
CHOI/12294315.I
W.C.
Blanton
Blackwell, Sanders, Peper,
Martin,
LLP
2300
Main,
Suite 1000
Kansas
City,
MO
64108
James Daughtery
Thom Creek
Sanitary District
700WestEndAvenue
Chicago Heights,IL 60411
Dennis L.
Duffield
Director ofPublic Works and Utilities
921
E.
Washington
Street
Joliet,
IL
60431
Albert
Ettinger
Environmental
Law
and
Policy Center
35
W.
WackerDrive, Suite 1300
Chicago, IL 60601-2110
LisaFrede
Chemical Industry Council
250
E. Devon Ave., Suite 239
Des
Plaines, IL
60018
James
Harrington
Roos&
Hardies
150N.
Michigan, Suite
2500
Chicago,
IL
60601
Ron Hill
MetropolitanWater Reclamation District
100 East Erie
Chicago,IL 60611
Fred L. Hubbard
Counsel for Vermillion CoalCompany
415 North Gilbert Street
P.O. Box 12
Danville, IL 61834-0012
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Gerald T.
Karr
Assistant Attorney General
Environmental Bureau
188WestRandolph,
20th
Floor
Chicago,
IL 60601
Robert T. Lawley
IllinoisDepartmentof
Natural
Resources
One Natural
ResourcesWay
Springfield, IL
62702-1271
Vickey McKinley
EvanstonEnvironmentalBoard
223 GreyAvenue
Evanston, IL
60202
Robert Messina
IllinoisEnvironmental RegulatoryGroup
215 EastAdams
Springfield, IL 62701
Erika
Powers
Barnes & Thomburg
10 South LaSalle, Suite 2600
Chicago, IL
60201
Thomas G. Safley
Hodge, Dwyer, Zeman
3150 Roland Avenue, P~O.
Box 5776
Springfield, IL
62705-5776
Sonjay Sofat
IllinoisEnvironmental ProtectionAgency
1021N. GrandAve. East, Mail Code #21
Springfield,IL 62794-9276
Mary
Sullivan
Illinois-American Water
Company
P.O. Box24040
Belleville, IL 62223-9040
ConnieTonsor
Illinois Environmental ProtectionAgency
1021 N. GrandAve. East,
Mail
Code #21
Springfield, IL 62794-9276
CHOI/122943 15.1
Frederick Keady
Vermillion Coal Company
P.O. Box 688
Glenview, IL
60025-0688
Clarie A. Manning
Attorney
111
N. Sixth Street
Springfield, IL
62701
Alec Messina
General Counsel
3150 Roland Avenue
Springfield, IL
62703
Irwin Polls
Metropolitan WaterReclamation District
6001 West Pershing Road
Cicero, IL
60804
Michael Rosenberg
Metropolitan WaterReclamation District
100 East Erie
Chicago, IL
60611
Sue A.
Schulz
General & Associate Corporate Counsel
300 N. Waterworks Drive
Belleville, IL
62223-9040
Joel Sternstein
Assistant Attorney General
188 West Randolph,
20th
Floor
Chicago, IL
60601
Marie Tipsord
Attorney, Pollution Control Board
100 WestRandolph, Suite 11-500
Chicago, IL
60601
Charles Wesseihoft
Ross & Hardies
150 N. Michigan Avenue
Chicago, IL
60601
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