ORIGINAL
BEFORE THE ILLINOIS POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD
RECEIVED
CLERK’S OFFICE
JUN
27
2005
STATE OF lLLh~JOi~
R05-19
Pollution Control
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(Rulemaking
-
Air)
Proceedings
held
on
June
14th,
2005,
at
10
a.m.,
at
the
offices
of
the
Illinois Pollution Control Board,
1021 North Grand
Avenue East, North Entrance,
Springfield,
Illinois, before
Amy
Antoniolli,
Chief
Hearing
Officer.
Reported
by:
Beverly
S.
Hopkins,
CSR,
RPR
CSR License No.:
084-004316
KEEFE
REPORTING
COMPANY
11
North
44th
Street
Belleville,
IL
62226
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IN
THE
MATTER
OF:
PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS
TO
EXEMPTIONS
FROM
STATE
PERMITTING
REQUIREMENTS
(35
ILL.
ADM.
CODE
201.146)
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APPEARANCES
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ILLINOIS POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD
James R.
Thompson Center
3
100 West Randolph Street,
Suite 11-500
Chicago,
Illinois 60601
4
(312)
814—3956
BY:
MS.
1NY
C. ANTONIOLLI,
Hearing Officer
5
MR. NICHOLAS
J. MELAS,
Board Member
MR. THOMAS E.
JOHNSON, Board Member
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MR. ANAND RAO, Technical Unit
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Illinois ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATORY GROUP
3150 Roland Avenue
8
Springfield,
Illinois 62703
(217)
523-4942
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BY:
MS. KATHERINE D. HODGE, Executive Director
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HODGE, DWYER
& ZEMAN
3150 Roland Avenue
11
Springfield,
Illinois 62705
(217)
523—4900
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BY:
MS.
N. LADONNA DRIVER, Co-counsel
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ILLINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
1021 North Grand Avenue East
14
Springfield,
Illinois 62794
BY:
MR.
CHARLES E. MATOESIAN,
Counsel
15
MR. DONALD E. SUTTON, Permit Section
MR. ROBERT W. BERNOTEIT,
FESOP
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HEARING OFFICER ANTONIOLLI:
Good morning and
2
welcome to
the
Illinois
Pollution
Control
Board
Springfield
3
offices.
My
name
is
Amy
Antoniolli
and
I’ve
been
assigned
as
the
4
hearing
officer
in
this
rulemaking.
The
Board
has
captioned
this
5
proceeding:
Proposed
Amendments
to
Exceptions
from
State
6
Permitting
Requirements,
Amendments
to
35
Illinois
Administrative
7
Code
201.146,
which
the
Board
has
docketed
R05-19.
8
In this proceeding the Agency,
the
proponents
are
asking
to
9
add
four
more
categories
to
determine
exemptions
to
state
air
10
permitting
requirements
in
Section
201.146
of
the
Board’s
air
11
rules.
The
joint
proponents
of this rulemaking are the Illinois
12
Environmental
Protection
Agency
and
the
Illinois
Environmental
13
Regulatory
Group.
The
Board
accepted
the
proposal
for
hearing
of
14
March
17,
2005, and today is the second hearing.
The first
15
hearing
was
held
on
April
12,
2005,
in
the
Board’s
offices
in
16
Chicago.
17
The
purpose
of
today’s
hearing
is
two-fold.
First,
this
18
rulemaking
is
subject
to
Section
27 (b)
of
the
Environmental
19
Protection
Act.
Section
27 (b)
requires
the
Board
to
request
the
20
Department
of
Commerce
and
Economic
Opportunity
to
conduct
an
21
economic
impact
study
on
certain
proposed
rules
prior
to
adoption
22
of
those
rules.
If
DCEO
chooses
to
conduct
the
impact
study,
23
then
the
DCEO
has
30
to
45
days
after
such
request
to
produce
the
24
study
of
the
economic
impact.
The
Board
must
then
make
the
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Company
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impact
study,
or
lack
thereof,
available
to
the public at least
2
20
days
before
a
public
hearing
on
the
economic
impact
of
the
3
rule.
As
required
to
27(b)
of
the
Act,
the
Board
requested
by
a
4
letter dated March 28th,
2005,
that DCEO conduct
an
impact
study
5
of
this
rulemaking.
DCEO
did
not
respond
and
the
Board
has
6
docketed
the
request
with
no
response
on
May
16,
2005.
The
7
second
purpose
of
today’s hearing is
to allow
the
proponents
to
8
again
testify
and
allow
any
members
of
the
public
who
happen
to
9
come
——
I’l.
just note for the record there are no members of the
10
public here at this time.
But if
any
arrive
during
the
process
11
of the hearing,
then they can
--
they’ll have the opportunity to
12
testify
or
to
ask
questions
of
the
proponents.
Today’s
13
proceeding is governed by the Board’s procedural rules.
All
14
information that is relevant and not repetitious
or privileged
15
will
be
admitted
to
the
record.
16
To my left is
Member
Nicholas
Me.as,
the
board
member
that
17
is
assigned
to
this
rulemaking.
Arid
seated
to
my
far
right
is
18
Member
Johnson.
Also
present
from
the
Board’s
technical
unit
19
today is Anand Rao.
20
The
Board
has
received
pre—filed
testimony from one
21
witness,
Mrs.
Katherine
Hodge,
on
behalf
of
the
proponents.
Mrs.
22
Hodge
will
testify
on
behalf
of
the
proponents.
23
And
before
we
begin,
I’d
like
to
note
that
since
the
first
24
hearing,
we’ve
received
a
couple
of
filings.
One
I’ll
note
that
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the Agency has filed an errata of corrections to the proposed
2
rule
language.
There has
also
been
filed
corrections
to
the
3
transcript
of
the
first
hearing
and
answers
by
Mr. Don Sutton who
4
testified
at
the
first hearing on behalf of the Agency to
5
questions
that
were
raised
at
the
first
hearing.
6
Please note that any questions that may be posed by the
7
board
members
or
board
staff
today
are
to
help
develop
a
more
8
complete record and do not reflect any bias.
After Mrs. Hodge
9
has testified,
anyone else may testify, again, regarding the
10
proposal.
And
like all witnesses who wish to testify,
they will
11
be sworn and may be asked q~iestionsabout their testimony.
And
12
we’ll
conclude today’s
——
and we’ll conclude today’s hearing with
13
a few procedural items.
Member Melas, before we be begin, would
14
you
like
to
add
anything?
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BOARD
MEMBER
MELAS:
No.
Just welcome everybody here today
16
and
we
look
forward
to
some
interesting
information.
Thank
you.
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HEARING OFFICER ANTONIOLLI:
And
for
the
court
reporter
who
18
is transcribing today’s proceedings, and especially in light of
19
the
request for corrections
that the Agency submitted,
let’s
20
please speak up when we testify and ask questions,
speak slowly
21
and clearly and please don’t speak over one another so that we
22
can produce a clear transcript.
With that,
are there any
23
questions about the procedures that we will follow today?
If
24
there are none,
then we can turn it over to the proponents for an
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opening
statement,
if
any.
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MR.
MATOESIAN:
I would just
--
Charles Matoesian with the
3
Illinois Environmental Protection Agency.
I would just like to
4
state that with me today
I have Mr. Don Sutton available to
5
answer questions.
Mr.
Bob Bernoteit if necessary to answer
6
questions.
7
This rulemaking is very narrow and direct focused.
It has
8
four exemptions to
the
long list of existing exemptions
under
35
9
Illinois Administrative Code Part 201-146.
These all involved
10
minimal activities with little or no admission increases.
In
11
every case
the
proponent,
that is
the
member of industry,
the
12
odis
(phonetic)
is on them to correctly identify the amount of
13
emissions and they are responsible if there are any
--
if they
14
miscalculate or they misstate the amount of emission in order to
15
try to take advantage of an exemption.
Compliance is not at
16
issue in any way.
This
is
very
focused.
We
do
not believe that
17
this is
a major rulemaking in the sense.
Issues involving PM
18
2.5, particulate matter, or the eight-hour ozone standard, is
19
simply not relevant,
neither are incinerators or coal fired power
20
plants
so
I
would just simply state this is a very minor focused,
21
narrow
rulemaking.
And
I
will
leave
it
at
that
at
this
point.
22
Thank
you.
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HEARING
OFFICER
ANTONIOLLI:
Okay.
Mrs.
Driver.
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MS.
DRIVER:
Donna
Driver,
outside counsel for the Illinois
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Environmental Regulatory Group.
Kathy
Hodge,
who
is
the
2
executive
director
of
the
group,
will
be
presenting
her
pre-filed
3
testimony
today.
She
will
be
reading
that
into
the
record
as
4
filed.
Again,
we’re
just
pleased
to
be
before
the
Board
and
5
pleased
to
be
coming
before
the
Board
with
this
rulemaking
with
6
the
Illinois
Environmental
Protection
Agency
and
looking
forward
7
to
answering
any
questions
you
may
have.
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HEARING
OFFICER
ANTONIOLLI:
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
9
else?
And
if
not,
at
this
time
we
can
go
ahead
and
swear
in
the
10
witness.
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(The witness was sworn by the reporter.)
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HEARING OFFICER ANTONIOLLI:
You’re free
to start with your
13
testimony.
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MS.
HODGE:
Thank you very much.
And before
I go over my
15
pre-filed testimony,
just
--
just a follow-up to the Agency’s
16
comments.
We concur that, you know,
it’s minor but
——
but also
I
17
want to assure the Board that
——
that
these
are
still
very
18
important exemptions for our member companies.
You know,
we
19
would like to see the Board move ahead expeditiously to implement
20
exemptions.
21
And
with that I’ll go directly to my pre-filed testimony.
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Thank you for the opportunity
to offer testimony in this
23
proceeding.
My name is Katherine Hodge, and I’m the executive
24
director of the Illinois Environmental Regulatory Group, which I
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will refer to as IERG.
IERG is an affiliate of the Illinois
2
State Chamber of Commerce.
As
I stated during
the
prior
hearing
3
in this matter, over the last several years, IERG has worked with
4
the Illinois EPA to identify potential areas where innovation and
5
improvements
to
environmental
permitting
would
assist
both
the
6
State and the regulated community.
In my testimony today,
I
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would like to highlight some impOrtant points about the
air
8
permitting improvements before the Board in this proceeding.
9
First,
I’d like to summarize
the
nature of
the
proposed air
10
permit exemptions.
Proposed subsection
(hhh) would allow the
11
replacement or addition of air pollution control devices in
12
certain limited circumstances, such as where
the emission unit
13
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being controlled is already permitted by Illinois EPA and has
14
operated in compliance,
the new control equipment will provide
15
better equal emission control and will have the required
16
monitoring equipment,
etc.
17
Proposed
subsection
(iii)
pertains
to
Federally
Enforceable
18
State
Operating
Permit,
or “FESOP,” sources and a similar
19
provision,
subsection
(jjj),
applies to Lifetime Operating Permit
20
sources.
These provisions allow replacement, modification or
21
addition of new emission units at such sources and certain
22
circumstances.
These circumstances are limited to potential
23
emissions from the project being less than a very low threshold
24
amount,
no
change
to
the
sources
“nonmajor”
status
under
Title
V,
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no
applicability
of
certain
federal
requirements
(such
as
under
2
the
New
Source
Performance
Standards)
and
no
outstanding
3
specified
compliance
and
enforcement
matters.
Each
of
these
4
provisions
also
has
its
own
restrictions,
such
as
the
hazardous
5
air pollutant limit for the FESOP exemption
and
the notification
6
provision for emission increases of certain levels for Lifetime
7
Operating Permit sources.
8
Finally, proposed subsection
(kkk) pertains
to
Clean
Air
9
Act Permit Program,
or “CAAPP,” sources.
This provision would
10
allow CAAPP sources
to construct or modify insignificant
11
activities without a construction permit.
12
I would now like
to discuss the benefits of the proposed
13
exemptions,
as
well
as
how
protective
the
proposed
permit
14
exceptions
are.
First,
the
proposed permit exemptions were
15
developed to help reduce the resources the Illinois EPA must
16
devote to
permit
projects that have relatively inconsequential
17
emissions.
At the same time, these proposed permit exemptions
18
would reduce the delay facilities must incur in initiating such
19
minor projects while the permitting process takes place.
20
There’s little question that Illinois EPA would routinely
21
issue permits for the projects that qualify for these proposed
22
permit exemptions.
Even though there could be emission increases
23
involved,
Illinois EPA would ultimately issue permits for these
24
types of projects.
Thus, putting a permit exemption in place
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does not change what occurs, with respect to emissions
to the
2
environment, when a project is instituted.
Rather,
these permit
3
exemptions simply remove
the
requirement
to
obtain
a
permit
4
before the project begins
and
a minor
——
and
a minor emissions
5
increase,
if any, occurs.
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Second,
the four exemptions at issue here are only for the
7
requirements
to
obtain
a
state
construction
or
operating
permit.
8
These
exemptions
have
absolutely
no
bearing
whatsoever
on
9
compliance with any substantive regulatory requirement.
Assuming
10
that a proposed activity,
such as a new emission unit, would fit
11
one of these permit exemptions, compliance would still be
12
required with,
for example,
the Board’s particulate matter
13
provisions at 35 Illinois Administrative Code Part 212,
or the
14
volatile organic material provisions at 35 Illinois
15
Administrative Code Part 218.
16
Furthermore,
as
I just mentioned, applicability of
17
substantive regulatory requirement,
such as New Source
18
Performance Standards, could mean that a proposed permit
19
exemption is not even available for a particular project under
20
the proposed permitting amendments.
I would add that the first
21
paragraph of Section 201.146 currently prohibits
the use of any
22
of
the
permit exemptions where the project at issue is regulated
23
by Nonattairunent New Source Review, Prevention of Significant
24
Deterioration, New Source Performance Standards
or National
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Emission
Standards
for
Hazardous
Air
Pollutants.
Thus,
where
2
these
federal
regulatory
schemes
are
at
issue,
these
exemptions
3
will be unavailable and
the
permit process will still occur.
4
Third,
the approach for the proposed permit exemptions will
5
be the
same,
if not more stringent, than the current permit
6
exemptions at 35 Illinois Administrative Code Section 201.146.
7
The facility must evaluate the permit exemptions
and
make
its
own
8
determination,
at
its
own
risk,
as
to
whether
the
exemptions
9
apply to a particular project.
This is precisely how the permit
10
exemption scheme has worked, under Section 201.146,
in the past.
11
However, unlike current permit exemptions,
there
is
a compliance
12
requirement for proposed subsections
(hhh),
(iii)
and
(jjj).
13
This requirement sets a particularly high bar for new,
modified
14
or
replacement
units
at
Lifetime
Operating
Permit
sources
and
15
Federally
Enforceable
State
Operating
Permit
sources,
in
that
a
16
pending specified compliance inquiry or enforcement action
17
prevents use of the permit exemption, even if the compliance
18
inquiry or enforcement action is completely unrelated to
the
19
emission unit at issue in the proposed project.
There is no
20
similar
restriction
for
any
of the current permit exemptions in
21
Section 201.146.
Thus,
these proposed provisions contain more
22
than adequate safeguards for compliance.
,
23
In addition,
in
the
case
of
proposed
subsection
24
(jjj)
(1) (b), the facility will be required to provide prior
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notification
to
Illinois
EPA
before
initiating
the
proposed
2
project.
There
is
no
similar
requirement
in
any
of
the
current
3
permit exemptions in Section 201.146.
Also,
in
the
case
of
major
4
sources, Illinois EPA will be informed of the projects upon
5
application for renewal for the facility’s operating permit,
as
6
required by Section 201.212.
7
Finally,
the current permit exemptions in Section 201.146
8
are only for certain specified categories of projects.
Thus,
if
9
a proposed project does not fit neatly within one of those
10
exemption categories, but has virtually no emissions,
a permit is
1’l
required, even though that project may have much fewer emissions
12
than would occur from projects that fit the current categorical
13
exemptions.
This is an impractical result when considering
14
impacts to the environment,
Illinois EPA, resources required to
15
issue such permits and the
time delays involved for such projects
16
while the permit is applied for and issued.
17
We have surveyed surrounding states within USEPA Region V
18
and
have
determined
that
Illinois is the only state that does not
19
have a permit exemption for projects that emit below a certain
20
threshold amount.
Further,
the thresholds we are proposing here
21
are extremely low when compared to similar provisions in the
22
other Region V states.
Accordingly,
as USEPA has approved higher
23
permit exemption thresholds in other states,
the
modest levels
24
proposed here should easily pass muster with USEPA.
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For
the
reasons
I have discussed,
the
proposed permit
2
exemptions would benefit Illinois EPA in better allocating its
3
permitting resources, while allowing very minor projects
to
4
proceed without the delay
of
permitting.
Significant
safeguards
5
have
been
instituted
in
these
proposed
exemptions
for
emissions
6
impact,
compliance
and
triggers of federal programs.
In the
7
limited situations posed in these exemptions, permitting would
8
provide
no
added
benefit
to
the
air
permitting
or
regulatory
9
scheme.
We urge the Illinois Pollution Control Board to move
10
forward
expeditiously
with
the
proposed
rulemaking.
I
would
be
11
happy to answer any questions that the Board may have.
12
HEARING OFFICER ANTONIOLLI:
Okay.
Thank you.
13
MS. DRIVER:
If
I could I’d just like
to move that the
14
pre-filed testimony of Kathy Hodge that was filed on June 1st be
15
entered into the record as an exhibit.
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HEARING
OFFICER
ANTONIOLLI:
Okay.
Are
there any
17
objections?
There are no objections,
I will enter the pre-filed
18
testimony of Katherine D. Hodge on behalf of the Illinois
19
Environmental Regulatory Group in support of R05-19
as Exhibit 1.
20
Okay.
And we can move onto questions if Lhere are any?
Any
21
questions of Mrs. Hodge right now?
Okay.
22
MR. MATOESIAN:
None for me.
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HEARING OFFICER ANTONIOLLI:
And
the Agency, would you like
24
to add anything?
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MATOESIAN:
No, not really.
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BOARD
MEMBER
RAO:
What
is an errata sheet?
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HEARING OFFICER ANTONIOLLI:
An errata sheet, it’s filed as
4
part of
the
record.
Okay.
Well, let’s go off the record for one
5
minute.
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BOARD
MEMBER
MELAS:
Oh,
I have
--
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HEARING
OFFICER ANTONIOLLI:
You do have one?
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BOARD MEMBER
MELAS:
One.
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HEARING OFFICER ANTONIOLLI:
Well,
continue.
10
BOARD MEMBER MELAS:
I presume that it would probably be
11
the Agency that might answer this better.
Throughout your
12
testimony and throughout the whole period we’ve been talking
13
about these minor increases,
that word de minimis come in several
14
times.
Without necessarily making this a joke, how many de
15
minimises,
not to do the de maximus,
or is
this
——
or is this
16
like asking how many angels can dance on
a pin and
——
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MR.
SUTTON:
And
do
I need to swear
--
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HEARING OFFICER
MELAS:
Yes.
19
MR. SUTTON
--
in?
I’m Don Sutton.
I’m the manager from
20
the permit section.
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HEARING
OFFICER ANTONIOLLI:
Let’s swear you in.
22
(The witness was sworn by the reporter.)
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BOARD
MEMBER
MELAS:
What I’m asking is what might
--
what
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in your estimation might be the cumulative effect of a whole
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number
of these because
——
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MR.
SUTTON:
Well,
that’s a decent question.
And
there are
3
regulatory schemes that would kick in that this doesn’t avoid.
4
So your determination whether you’re a major source under USEPA
5
regulations will require
to
have
a
federal
operating
permit
are
6
based on your allowable emissions regardless
——
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BOARD
MEMBER
MELAS:
Right.
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MR.
SUTTON:
--
of whether you have a permit or not.
So
9
there would be a point in
time if you had enough of these,
that
10
you could actually trigger then a higher level requirement.
And
11
so these are existing sources and they have to tell us what they
12
currently have
and,
I mean,
if they since are getting close,
they
13
will contact us.
If we happen to be doing a field inspection and
14
note they seem to have an inordinate number of these things, you
15
can get there.
But keep in mind we’re talking somewhere
——
16
anywhere between a half a ton to two tons at most
and
most
17
regulatory triggers, besides hazardous pollutants, will start
18
after June 15th will be the 100 ton level.
So you could add
19
quite a few before you get there.
Most of our Lifetime Emission
20
sources in aggregate have less than 25 tons of total of all
21
pollutants and that’s what they’re allowed to
emit,
and
actual
22
emissions range two to five
tons a year.
So there is a lot of
23
room for growth before they actually get into regulatory scheme
24
to require a higher permit.
.
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BOARD
MEMBER
MELAS:
What
is
the
order
of
magnitude
of
the
2
number
of
emission
sources in the State of
Illinois
that could
3
possibly be implementing these exemptions?
4
MR. SUTTON:
Well,
to a certain degree all
the sources in
5
the State of Illinois could take advantage of it,
and
we have
6
6,800 roughly sources.
Thus,
true smaller guys are in
——
I was
7
actually,
I think, provided numbers in
the
record, we have about
8
roughly 4,900 sources that have less
--
have a permit that keeps
9
them
less than 2,500.
10
BOARD
MEMBER
MELAS:
Less than 25.
11
MR.
SUTTON:
25 tons
a year.
So
the
vast majority of the
12
sources.are smaller sources.
We’d like to say the largest 250
13
sources emit
95 percent of the air pollutions in the State of
14
Illinois.
15
BOARD MEMBER MELAS:
So if
--
without putting words
in your
16
mouth,
actually there are enough permits, excuse me, enough
17
provisions made, enough safeguards so that if it were to go
18
beyond a certain point, there are provisions with which the
19
Agency
can
then act?
20
MR. SUTTON:
Right.
There are ball bat provisions on the
21
federal requirement that would make
--
yeah,
that would
kick
them
22
into a higher regulatory scheme.
We as a state do not have a
23
right
to
write
a
federal
requirement,
so
those
exist
of
24
regardless what we do.
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BOARD
MEMBER
MELAS:
Thank
you.
2
HEARING
OFFICER
ANTONIOLLI:
So
then
in
your
research
has
3
either
the
Agency,
or
either
seen
in
other
states,
any
limit
to
4
them
a
number
times
one
facility
could
——
one
source
could
take
5
advantage
of
exemptions
--
threshold
exemptions?
6
MS. HODGE:
We’re not aware of that kind of limitation in
7
the rules in the other states but I’ve not reviewed specifically
8
for that point.
But in our prior review, we don’t think there’s
9
anything
there.
10
HEARING
OFFICER
ANTONIOLLI:
Okay.
11
BOARD
MEMBER RAO:
Asking clarification for Mrs. Hodge, on
12
page
3
and
4
you
refer
to
some
of
the
federal
programs
and
state
13
that these federal regulatory schemes are at issue these
14
exemptions would not be, you know, available and the permit
15
process would still take place.
And Hr.
Sutton just mentioned
16
that all
the
6,900 permitted sources may take advantage of this.
17
I was just wanting to know if this is a federal permit involved
18
then can
they
use
this
exemption
for
minor
modifications
and
19
things like that or not?
20
MS.
HODGE:
Is your question whether a Title V source could
21
22
BOARD MEMBER RAO:
Yes, yes.
23
MS. HODGE:
--
could rely upon that?
Well, there are
24
limitations and you have
to look at each exemption independently.
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I think Title V resource will rely upon the most,
of
2
course,
is the one for the insignificant activity.
And
right now
3
under Title
V
operating
permits,
these
sources
are
allowed
to
4
make these changes without updating their operating
--
their
5
Title V operating permit,
some require notice,
some do not.
This
6
would just simply allow them to make the changes without going
7
through the construction permit process.
But again,
as
I said,
8
in my testimony, you know,
there would be notification to the
9
Agency for some and the Agency would be notified of all the
10
changes at the time of renewal.
11
BOARD
MEMBER
RAO:
Thank you.
12
HEARING
OFFICER
ANTONIOLLI:
Is there anything further?
13
Okay.
Then let’s
go off the record.
14
(A discussion was held off
the record.)
15
HEARING OFFICER ANTONIOLLI:
For
the
record the Board will
16
accept public comment on this proposal until July 14th,
2005.
17
There will be an additional public comment period of at least 45
18
days after
the
Board adopts these rules for first notice.
19
Today’s hearing concludes
the hearing scheduled by the Board in
20
this matter but any party may request an additional hearing
21
pursuant to Section 102.412(b)
of the Board’s procedural rules.
22
We expect to have
the transcript of today’s hearing by
23
approximately eight business days which brings it to June 24th,
24
2005.
Soon after we receive the transcript,
the Board will post
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it to our website, which is www.ipcb.state.il.us,
there the
2
transcript,
as well as the proponents’ proposal,
and
all of
the
3
Board Orders
throughout this proceeding will be viewable
and
4
downloadable at no charge.
Alternatively,
you can order a copy
5
of the transcript from the Clerk of
the Board at 75 cents per
6
page.
7
Anyone can file
a public comment in this proceeding with
8
the Clerk of the Board but please note that when filing a public
9
comment, you serve all the people on the service list and please
10
call the Board for the most recent version of the service list.
11
Today we have brought copies of the current service list with us
12
today.
If there’s nothing further,
I wish to thank you all for
13
your comment and testimony and questions and this hearing
is
14
adjourned.
Thank you.
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STATE OF ILLINOIS
COUNTY OF FAYETTE
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FICATE
I, BEVERLY S.
HOPKINS,
a Notary Public in and for the
County of Fayette,
State of Illinois, DO HEREBY CERTIFY that the
foregoing 19 pages comprise a true,
complete and correct
transcript of
the
proceedings
held
on
the
14th day of June A.D.,
2005,
at the Illinois Pollution Control Board, 1021 North Grand
Avenue East,
North Entrance, Springfield,
Illinois, in the matter
of:
Proposed Amendments to
Exemptions
From
State
Permitting
Requirements
(35 Ill. Ada.
Code 201.146)
in proceedings held
before Hearing Officer Amy Antoniolli, and recorded in machine
shorthand by me.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF I have hereunto set my hand and affixed
by Notarial Seal
this 20th day of June A.D.,
2005’.
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