1. RECEIVED
      2. PCB 03-1 34
      3. NOTICE OF MAiLING
      4. EFRAIM GIL
      5. MAY 6, 2003
      6. 1. Employed on a contractual basis.
      7. 2. 1989
      8. 2003
      9. 4. No. My role was limited to fact-finding.
      10. 5.. None
      11. 5. Yes, as a fact-finder
      12. 8. Do not recall
      13. 9. Do not recall
      14. 10, N/a
      15. 11. N/a
      16. 13. N/a (don’t recognize the name Chris Rubac)
      17. 14. N/a
      18. IS. N/a
      19. 16. N/a
      20. 18, Don’t know
      21. 19. To the best of my recollection the Waste Management employees with
      22. when, I communicated during that time period were Dale Hokstra andLee Edelman.
      23. into 2002
      24. 21. Do not remember
      25. 22. Do not recall
      26. 23. See 22 above
      27. 24. Do not understand the question
      28. 25 N/a
      29. 26. 1 don’t recall
      30. 27. N/a
      31. 28. Donotkncw
      32. 29. N/a
      33. 30. NIa
      34. 31. During my years as Solid Wa8te Coordinator, various amendments
      35. were considered, although I have no recollection regarding dates.
      36. 32. See#3labove
      37. 34. See #31 above
      38. 35. Don’t know
      39. 7. Unclear question
      40. 39. Ne
      41. 40. No, except the possibility of one box lunch tha* may have been
      42. provided during a meeting which ran through the lunch hour.
      43. 41 No
      44. 42. N/a
      45. 43. 1 may have duplicates as part of several papers copied per routine
      46. retirement process.
      47. 45. Home. Recently discharged from hospital after suffering a diabetic
      48. .46. Yes
      49. 48. No

MA~r’8?
‘83 16:21 FR SLdRNSON MARTIN BELL 312 321 0998 TO 8143669
P. 02/16
01 98-001
ILLINOIS POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD
CITY OF KANKAKEE,
)
V.
Petitioner,
COUNTY OF KANKAKEE, COUNTY
BOARD OF KANKAKEE, and WASTE
MANAGEMENT OF ILLINOIS, INC.
Respondents.
RECEIVED
CLERK’S OFFICE
MP~Y 0 7 2003
STATE OF ILUNOIS
)
PCB
03125
Pollution Control Board
)
PCB 03-133
PCB 03-1 34
FOB 03-1 35
(consolidated)
(Pollution Control Facility Siting Appeals)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
To:
(See attached Service List.)
NOTICE OF MAiLING
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that on this 7th day of May 2003, the following
Mr. Gil’s
Responses
to
Watson’s Written
Questions,
attached hereto, were mailed to you.
Elizabeth S. Harvey
SWANSON, MARTIN & BELL
One IBM Plaza, Suite 2900
330 North Wabash Avenue
Chicago, Illinois 60611
Telephone: (312) 321-9100
Firm ID. No. 29558
COUNTY OF KANKAKEE and
COUNTY BOARD OF KANKAKEE
By:

lAY
87 ‘03 16:21 FR
S~JANSDNMARTIN
BELL 312 321 0990 TO 8143669
P.83/16
CERTIFICATE OF
SERVR~E
I, the undersigned non-attorney, state that I served copies ofthe described documents in the
above-captioned matter via facsimile arid U.S. Mail to all those listed on the service list on May 7,
2003.
/t~Z~
J nette M. PodJin
7~.
x
Under penalties as provided by law
pursuarif to 735 !LCS
5/1-109, I
certify
that the st~fenieritsset forth herein
are true and correct.

MAY 87 ‘03 16:21 FR
SWANSON
MARTIN BELL 312 321 0990 TO 8143669
P.04/16
•Ma.y-OG-03 O1:17p Gil
ar~d
A~sociate~
Ir~.
7O~ ~47-~6~
P.02
EFRAIM GIL
MAY 6, 2003
1.
Employed on a contractual basis.
2.
1989
3.
2003
4.
No. My role was limited to fact-finding.
5..
None
5.
Yes, as
a fact-finder
7.
Do not recall
8.
Do
not recall
9.
Do not recall
10,
N/a
11.
N/a
12.
Do not
recall
13.
N/a (don’t recognize the name Chris Rubac)
14.
N/a
IS.
N/a
16.
N/a
17.
No,
that
is not
my understanding. I
did
not
serve
in
any negotiating
capacity; my
role was limited to fact-finding
18,
Don’t know
19.
To the best of my recollection the Waste Management employees with
when, I communicated during that time period were Dale Hokstra and
Lee Edelman.
M~Y86 ‘83 ~5:5~
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MAY 07 ‘03 16:21 FR SWANSON MARTIN BELL 312 :21 0990 TO 8143669
P.05/16
l~O04
May-06-03
01:17P
Gil ~r~d ~zso~iat~
I~-ic~
708 747-8653
20.
Do not remember whether or
not
my fact-finding asignment continued
into 2002
21.
Do not remember
22.
Do not
recall
23.
See 22 above
24.
Do not understand the question
25
N/a
26.
1 don’t recall
27.
N/a
28.
Donotkncw
29.
N/a
30.
NIa
31.
During my years as Solid Wa8te Coordinator, various amendments
were considered, although I have no recollection regarding dates.
32. See#3labove
33.
See
#31
above
34.
See #31 above
35.
Don’t know
36.
See
#31
above
7.
Unclear question
38.
N/a
39.
Ne
M~Y06 ‘83 15:58
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MR~(87’~3l6:2lFR SWANSON MARTIN BELL 312 321 0990 TO 8143669
P.06/16
M0~-Q~ 01:17P cii
am4 A$~o~jat~ Ir~.
708 747-8653
40.
No, except the possibility of one box lunch tha* may have been
provided during a meeting which ran through the lunch hour.
41
No
42.
N/a
43.
1 may have duplicates as part of several papers copied per routine
retirement process.
44..
See above #43. Regarding the subject matter, a
variety
of subject
matters
relating to
years
of
service
copied per routine retirement process.
45.
Home. Recently discharged from hospital after suffering a diabetic
attack
and stroke. Am currently under doctor’s care for diabetes, post-
stroke condition and cn~oing
heart
disease.
.46.
Yes
47.
No, other
than
for
non-stressful
activities.
48.
No
____________
Signed_________________
Efraim
Gil
~
Signed.~J
~LLA
I~~Enid
Lucchesi
Gil
MAY 06 ‘0~ 13:58
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MARTIN BELL 312 321 0990 TO 8143669
P.07/16
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VERJFI(~AT19~
Under the penalties as provided by law pursuant to Section 1-109 of the
Code of Civil Procedure, the undersigned certiflea that the statements set forth in
my answers to written questions are true and correct.
Date:_______ ______,
2003.
Signed: ~
mGri
~
Date: 41~7/c~ 2003.
.
Withess signature:
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Witness printed name:
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MAY 07 ‘03 16:22
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FR
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SWANSON MARTIN BELL
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3121~FL~@321 0990~78TO 8143669TO
02~T~ 448808~1~P.08/16P.~
Instructions: You are to review and respond to the following questions without the help of
anyone else
and
without conferring with your attorney or the attorney for the County, County
Board, or any other entity. You must sign you answers to the questions in thc space provided
below, under oath and
under
penalty to perjury.
Please pnnt your nanie:
1.
Have you been employed by or with the County of
Kankakee,
either on an individual or a
contractual basis?
2. During what year did you start your employment or contractual relationship with the
County of
Kankakee?
3.
During what year did you end your employment or contractual relationship with the
County ofKankakee?
4.
Were
you
involved in the ncgotiation of the host agreement for the proposed Kankakee
County Landfill expansion, between thc County of Kankakee and Waste Management of
Illinois, Inc.?
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5. What was your role in the negotiations?

MAY 07
‘03 16:22 FR
SWANSON MARTIN
~
BELL
~H~’JW
312
1b~L4~
321 0990
8~7a
TO 8143669
TO 0~475S~~18
P.09/16
P.83
6.. Did you mcct or confer or communicate in a~iyway with Waste Management of Illinois,
Inc. or its representatives in 2000 concerning the host agreement for the proposed landfill
expansion?
—_
7. If your answer is “Yes,” to Question 6, above, approximately how many times?
8. If you answer is “Yes,” to Question 6, above, were County Board Members present?
9. Did you meet or confer or ecimrnunicate in any way with Waste Management
of
Illinois,
Inc. or its representatives in 2001, but before November
2001,
concernmg the host
agreement
for
thc proposed landfill expansion?
10.
If your answer is “Yes)” to Question 9, above, approximately how many times?
IL If you answer is “Yes,” to Question 9, above, were County Board Members present?
2

MAY
07 ‘03 16:22 FR
SWANSON MARTIN
BELL 312 321 0990 10 8143669
P.10/16
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~~VW
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ubi’8 TO
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~
12. Did one of the meetings between you, Waste Management of Illinois, Inc. representatives,
and County Board Members take place, during 2001 and before November 2001, at the
Settler’s 11111 Landfill?
-
13. Chris Rubak, from Waste Management of Illinois, Inc. was present at the ineetin,g
described in Question 12, correct?
14. What did Chris Rubak talk about atthe meeting?
15. Which County BoardMembers were present at.the meeting referenced in Question 12’?
-a
16. Which Waste Management of Illinois, Inc. representatives were present at the meeting
referenced in Question No.12?
17. In 2001, before November 2001, is
it
your understanding that there was a group, but not
an official committee, ~f County Board Members who were working with you in
negotiating the host agreement for the proposed landfjll expansion? If so, who were they:
3

MAY 07 ‘03 16:22 FR SWANSON MARTIN BELL 312 321 0990 10 8143669
P.11/16
I
I’~
~1U~.I~r~)
~HI~’JW 1bbL4~ E1576 TO O247~6544B@B@~18 P.05
1~.Is it
your
understanding
that in November 2001, this unofficial
group of County Board
Members
was officially formed
into a
committee?
19.
With
who did you meet, confer or communicate with in any
way,
from Waste
Mana~emcntof Illinois, Inc., during 2001 (the entire year) concerning the host agreement
for the proposed
expansion?
20. With who did you meet, confer or communicate with in any way from Waste Management
of Illinois, Inc.5 during 2002 (the cutire year) and, approximately when did those
-
communications
take place (month or season, to
the best~ofyour
recollection)?
21. With what frequency did you
communicate
with
the
County Board Members from March
2002 to January 31, 2003, concerning
the proposed landfill expansion
andlor
siting
application?
22. DC! you explain, communicate, meet or confer with any County Board Member after
the
first siting application
was withdrawn by Waste Management of Illinois. Inc. to explain
why
it was withdrawn?
23. After
the
first siring application was withdrawn by Waste
Management of Illinois, Inc.,
did you explaIn, communicate, meet or confer with any County Board Member
concerning any portion of Waste Management of Illinois, Inc.’s siring proposal?
4

MAY
07
‘03 16:23 FR SWANSON MARTIN BELL
.~•
312 321 0990
TO 8143669
~P~’4(LJbDft~~jU
P.12/16~-~.O6
-a
24.
Did
you have input, prior to Waste Management of Illinois, Inc.’s filing its siting
application, concerning the design, location or operation of the proposed
landfill
expansion?
25.
If you answered Question 24 affirmatively, please describe
your input.
26. Between March 2002 and January
31, 2003, did you
call, meet with, confer, or
communicate in any
way with Waste Management of Illinois, Inc or its representatives
(including,
but
not limited
to its officer, employees
and attorneys)?
-I-
27. If your answer to Question
26
is
‘EYes,”
please identify with whom you had the
communication, when it occurred, the subject matter, arid
what was said to
you and what
you
said to Waste Management of Illinois, Inc.
28. After Ja.nuary 3!, 2003, is it true that Waste Management of Illinois, inc. and the County
of Kankakce have held meetings and have been negotiating to change or relax some ofthe
conditions imposed on the proposed expansion on January 31, 2003, as part of the County
Board’s decision
-a-
5

MA” 07 ‘03 16:23 FR SWANSON MARTIN BELL ~
~99U0~
8143669
JT~
P.13/16
29.
Were you a part of those meetings?
30. If you answered Question
29 in the
affirmative, what was your
role, how many meetings,
conferences, etc. did you attend, and who else do you know was involved in these
negotiations?
31. Is it
true that
during, at
least, January 2003, the County Board was considering another
amendment to the Solid Waste Management Plan?
32. Were you involved
in
this
amendment,
referenced in Qucstion 31, in any way?
33. If you answered Question 32 “Yes.” in what way were you involved?
34. Mr. Charles Heiston represented the
County
Board concerning the amendment to the
Solid
Waste Managemcnt Plan described in Question 31, correct?
35.
Approximately how many times
are you
aware
of the County Board and Mr. Hclston
meeting conceniing the amendment describcd in Question 31?
6

MA” 07 ‘03 16:23 FR SWANSON
‘.“-“—‘~“-~
MARTIN
~
BELL 312
I’~rL’-.vJ
321 0990
~J.Jj~
TO 8143669
fIJ
~ ~
P.14/16
r~
36. The amendment described in Question 31, concerned clarification that the County of
Kankakee’s Solid Waste Management
Plan
calls for only one landfill, correct?
37.. And the landfill called
for
in
that Plan in the Kankakee County RDF a/k/a Kankakce
County Landfill, which is owned and operated by
Waste
Management of Illinois, Inc.,
tight?
38.
If you answered Question 37 that ~heQuestion is incorrect, explain why it is incorrect?
39. Have you ever accepted a gift or
gratuitiy,
no matter what the value, from
Waste
Management of Illinois, Inc. or any of its parent
or
affiliate
corporations,
or
any of its
representative5?
40. Have you
ever
accepted a meal without charge, no matter what the value, from
Waste
Management of Illinois, Inc. or any of its parent or affiliate corporations, or any of its
representatives?
41. Have you ever accepted a nip. vacation, or either housing
accorwnodation
or
transportation to such a trip or vacation (whether or not the trip or vacatiøn included a
I

MA” 07 ‘03,16:23 FR
SWANSON
MARTIN BELL 312 321 0990 TO 8143669
P.15/16
meeting or seminar in a relevant field
to your work),
from Waste Management of Illinois.
Inc. or any of its parent or
affiliate corporations, or
any of its representatives?
42. If you answered “yes” to any
of the Questions 39-41, above, please describe each
instance
of accepting such things, by providing the approximate date (or, if you cannot recall the
date, the year and the month and/or season), describe what you received
(i
e,
what type of
gift, gratuity, meal, trip, vacation or transportation you received), and, if the
receipt was of
atrip
of
any kind, describe the destination of the trip.
43. Do you have any documents in your possession concerning any of the following:
Karikakee County RDF or the Karikakee County
Landfill,
the proposed landtill expansion
or siting application from Waste Management of Illinois, Inc., Waste Management of
Illinois, Inc., negotiations which occurred concerning the host fee agreement between the
County and Waste Management of Illinois, Inc. concerning the
landfill
expansion, your
calendars or appcirmnent books for2000-2003.
44.
Do you have any
documents
from your work
with the County of
Kankakee at borne? If
so,
what subject matters do those
documents Concern?
45,
Axe you at home or in ahospital at the time you are answering these questions?
46.
Are you able to
speak?
8

47~
Have you left your house for any reason in the last week’7 If so,
what reasons?
48. Have you hired Ms.
Elizabeth Harvey aridlor Mr. Richard Porter to represent you,
i.e~,
be
your attorney, for anyreason? If so, what reason(s)?
49. Have you ever been to 1-~awaii? If so, what is the last time (/.e., most recent in time to
today) you
went there
and what was the
purpose of
your travel (i.e., vacation, business,
seminar, combination or some or all ofthese).
Under
penalties
as provided by law pursuant to ILL. REV.
STAT CHAP.
HO, SEC. l-109,.1
certify that the statements set forth
herein
arc
true and correct.
Dated: _________________________
Signed:_____________________________________
Printed Name:_
Dated:________________________________________
Witness signaxurc
___________
_________
Witness printed
name:_
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