1. CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
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BEFORE THE ILLINOIS POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD
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312003
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PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO:
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION RULES iN
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ILL. ADM. CODE PART 309 NPDES
PERMITS AND PERMITTING
PROCEDURES
NOTICE OF FILING
STAFE OF ILLINOIS
R03-19
Pollution Control Board
(NPD.ES Rulemaking)
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TO:
Dorothy M. Gunn, Clerk
Illinois Pollution Control Board
James R. Thompson Center
100 West Randolph Street
Suite 11-500
Chicago, Illinois 60601
(VIA FIRST
CLASS
MAIL)
Marie E. Tipsord
Illinois Pollution Control Board
James R. Thompson Center
100 West Randolph Street
Suite 11-500
Chicago, Illinois 60601
(VIA FIRST
CLASS MAIL)
(PERSONS ON ATTACHED SERVICE LIST)
PLEASE TAKE NOTICEthat I have today filed with the Office ofthe Clerk ofthe
Illinois Pollution Control Board an original and nine copies each ofa
MOTION FOR A
THIRD HEARING, copies ofwhich are herewith served upon you.
Respectfully submitted,
Dated: March 27, 2003
ILLiNOIS ENVIRONMENTAL
REGULATORY GROUP,
By:
Thomas G. Safley
HODGE DWYER ZEMAN
3150 Roland Avenue
Post Office Box 5776
Springfield, Illinois 62705-5776
(217) 523-4900
Robert A. Messina
ILLINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL
REGULATORY GROUP
215 East Adams Street
Springfield, Illinois 62701
(217) 522-5512
TEllSFILING
SUBMITTED
ON RECYCLED
PAPER

CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I, Thomas G. Safley, hereby certify that I have served copies ofthe foregoing MOTION
FOR
A THIRD HEARING upon:
Mr. Richard Acker
Openlands Project
25 East Washington, Suite 1650
Chicago, Illinois 60602
Ms. LauraAnderko
8 North 570 Taos
Elgin, Illinois 60123
Joseph J. Annunzio, Esq.
Village Attorney
1000 Civic Center Drive
Niles, Illinois 60068
Mr. Doug Booth
Congressman J. Dermis Hastert
27 North River Street
Batavia, Illinois 60510
200 North Michigan
Suite
505
Chicago, Illinois 60601
Ms. Ellen Deason
705 West Michigan Avenue
Urbana, Illinois 61801
Mr. Kenneth Alderson
Illinois Municipal League
500 East Capitol
Post Office Box 5180
Springfield, Illinois 62705
Ms. Kay Anderson
American Bottoms RWTF
One American Bottoms Rd
Sauget, Illinois 62201
Ms. Carol Curtis
618 W. John Street
Champaign, Illinois 61820
Mr. James Daugherty
District Manager
Thom Creek Basin Sanitary District
700 West End Avenue
Chicago Heights, Illinois 60411
Mr. John L. DeLaurenti
514 File Avenue
Pocahontas, Illinois 62275.
Mr. Michael Ander
218 Sharon Drive
Sleepy Hollow, Illinois 60118-1719
Ms. Debbie Bruce
Department ofNatural Resources
Fisheries Division
600 North Grand Avenue West
Springfield, Illinois 62701
Mr. George M. Burner
701 East Polk Street
Morton, Illinois 61550-1714
Mr. Bill Compton
Caterpillar Inc.
100 N.E. Adams Street
Peoria, Illinois 6 1629-3350
Earl R. Cruetzburg
2302 Brookens Circle
Urbana, Illinois 60601
\‘Ir. Jack Darin
Sierra Club, IL Chapter
Ms. Ellen Baker
1742 Reynolds Road
Franklin Grove, Illinois 61031
Mr. Chip Bremer
Post Office Box 12763
Research Triangle Park, N.
Carolina 27709
Mr. Greg Buchner
Fox Metro Water Reclamation
District
682A Route 31
Oswego, Illinois 60543-9417
Mr. Mike Callahan
Bloomington Normal Water
Reclamation District
Post Office Box 3307
Bloomington, Illinois 61702-3307
Mr. and Mrs. George & Alice
Comwell
4325 North
1400 East Road
Indianola, Illinois 61850
Fredric P. Andes, Esq.
Barnes & Thomburg
2600 Chase Plaza
10 South LaSalle Street
Chicago, Illinois 60603
W.C. Blanton, Esq.
Blackwell Sanders Pepper Martin
LLP
2300
Main
Street
Suite 1000
Kansas City, Missouri 64108
Ms. Nancy Brill
City
of Naperville
Department ofUtilities
‘Post Office Box 3020
Naperville, Illinois 60566
Christine Bucko, Esq.
Illinois Attorney Ge~ieral’sOffice
Environmental Control
188 West Randolph Street
20th Floor

Chicago, Illinois 60601
Mr. William Cellini
IL Association ofWastewater
Agencies
424 North Fourth Street, Suite 100
Springfield, Illinois 62704
Mr. Larry Cox
Downers Grove Sanitary
District
2710 Curtiss Street
Downers Grove, Illinois 60515
Mr. Dennis Daffield
Dept. ofPublic Works City ofJoliet
921 EastWashington Street
Joliet, Illinois 60433
Mr. Quentin Davis
Pehr-Graham & Associates
660 West Stephenson Street
Freeport, Illinois 61032
Ms. Nancy Dietrich
2803 Myra Ridge Drive
Urbana, Illinois 618Q2-7034
Mr. John Donahue
City ofGeneva
1800 South Street
Geneva, Illinois 60134
Matthew Dunn, Esq.
Illinois Attorney General’s Office
188 West Randolph, 20th Floor
Chicago, Illinois 60601
Ms. Rhea Edge
313 North Main Street
Bloomington, Illinois 61701
Albert Ettinger, Esq.
Environmental Law & Policy Center
35
East Wacker Drive, Suite 1300
Chicago, Illinois 60601-2110
Mr. Frank Fisher
15 Westwood
~VIãttoon,Illinois 61938
Chemical Industry Council of
Illinois
9801 W. Higgins Road, Suite
515
Rosemont, Illinois 60018
Mr. George Gore
217 North East Street
Chatham, Illinois 62629
Mr. Ed Hammer
WQS 16JUSEPA
77 West Jackson
Chicago, Illinois 60604
Mr. James T. Harrington
Ross & Hardies
150 North Michigan, Suite 2500
Chicago, Illinois 60601
John M. Heyde, Esq.
Sidley Austin Brown & Wood
Bank One Plaza
10 South Dearborn Street
Chicago, Illinois 60603
Mr. Michael Doran
Strand and Associates
910 West Wingra Drive
Madison, Wisconsin 53715
Mr. Tim Dwyer
Kane County ASA
37 West 777, Route 38
St. Charles, Illinois 60175
Mr. Jim Elliott
1911 North Fort Myer Drive, Suite
702
Arlington, Virginia 22209
Mr. Bob Evans
City ofFreeport
230 West Stephenson Drive
Freeport, Illinois 61032
Bill Forcade, Esq.
Jenner and Block
1 IBM Plaza
Chicago, Illinois 60611
Mr. John Gilpin
818 West Columbia Avenue
Champaign, Illinois 61820-3306
Mrs. Donald A. Greeley
2206 Cureton Drive
Urbana, Illinois 61801-6722
Mr. Gary Hanline
Baxter Healthcare Corporation
Route 120 & Wilson
Round Lake, Illinois 60073
Mr. Kyle Harvey
Winston & Strawn
35 West Wacker Drive
Chicago, Illinois 60601
Ms. Joan T. Hicks
Apartment 6209
101 West Windsor Road
Urbana, Illinois 61802
Mr. Greg Drzymkowski
931 Willow Lane
Sleepy Hollow, Illinois 60118
Mr. Craig M. Eckert
505
High Hill Road
Philo, Illinois 61864
Mr. Bill Ellis
13956 East 400 North Road
Indianola, Illinois 61850
Mr. Richard Ferreira
CCL Custom Manufacturing
One West Hegler Lane
Danville, Illinois 61832
Ms. Susan M. Franzetti
Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal
8000 Sears Tower
233 South Wacker Drive
Chicago, Illinois 60606
Mr. Daniel J. Goodwin
Secor International, Inc.
400 Bruns Lane
Springfield, Illinois 62702
~VIs.
Lisa M. Frede

Ms. Dorothy M. Gunn
Clerk, Pollution Control Board
100 West Randolph Street
Suite 11-500
Chicago, Illinois 60601
Mr. Bruce Hannon
1208 West Union Street
Champaign, Illinois 61821
Mr. John Hayward
5199 North 1500 East Road
Georgetown, Illinois 61846
Mr. Phil Hoebing
1831 College Avenue
Quincy, Illinois 62301
Fred L. Hubbard, Esq.
415
North Gilbert Street
Danville, Illinois 61834-0012
Ms. Anna Keck
506 South State Street, Apt. 2
Champaign, Illinois 61820
Mr. Mark Koenen
City of St. Charles
2 East Main Street
St. Charles, Illinois 60174
Mr. JeffVan Landuyt
Village of Barrington
206 South Hargh Street
Barrington, Illinois 60018
Mr. William Leja
1634 West Chase
Chicago, Illinois 60626
Ms. Christine C. Main
1219 West Charles
Champaign, Illinois 61821
Chicago, illinois 60606
Mr. David G. O’Brien
1020 Heatherton Drive
Naperville, Illinois 60563
Margaret P. Howard, Esq.
Hedinger & Howard
1225 South Sixth Street
Springfield, Illinois 61801
Ms. Laura E. Huth
808 South Race Street
Urbana, Illinois 61801
Mr. Mark Kennedy
Greeleyand Hansen
8905 Presidential Parkway
Suite 230
Upper Marlboro, Maryland 20772
Ms. Peggy Kotçher
3648 North 1500 East Road
Ridge Farm, Illinois 61870
RobertT. Lawley, Esq.
Chief Legal Counsel
Department ofNatural Resources
One Natural Resources Way
Springfield, Illinois 62702-1271
Ms. Melanie J. Loots
813 West University Avenue
Champaign, Illinois 61820
Ms. Gloria Manage
15303 College Avenue
Georgetown, Illinois 61846
Mr. Edward L. Michael
Trout Unlimited
223 Barberry Road
Highland Park, Illinois 60015
Mr. and Mrs. Phyllis & Jerry Oliver
360 Walker Drive
Vienna, Illinois 62995
Mr. James W. Howlett
3421 Emerson Street
Franklin Park, Illinois 60181-1709
Mr. Frederick D. Keady
Vermillion Coal Company
1979 Johns Drive
Glenview, Illinois 60025
Ms. Lou Ann Koebel
706 West Vine Street
Champaign, Illinois 61820
Mr. Daniel Kucera
Chapman and Cutler
ill West Monroe
Chicago, Illinois 60603
Ranelle Leier, Esq.
Oppenheimer, Wolff & Donnelly, LLP
Plaza VII, Suite 3300
45 South Seventh Street
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55402-1609
Ms. Fran Lowman
5654
RoatryRoad
Cherry Valley, Illinois 61016
Ms. Barbara McKasson
899 RowanRoad
Makanda, Illinois 6295 8-2822
Mr. Larry D. Miller
15 Elm Ridge
MattoOn, Illinois 61938
Mr. Tom Muth
Fox Metro Water Reclamation District
682 State Route 31
Oswego, Illinois 60543
lames Morrin, Esq.
Wildman, Harrold, Allen,
and Dixon
~25West Wacker Drive
suite 2810
Ms. Pauline Morrison
1361 Champaign Forest Court
Wheaton, Illinois 60187
Mr. Irwin Polls
Metropolitan Water Reclamation
District of Chicago
6001 West Pershing Road

Cicero, Illinois 60650-4112
Chris Polluck
227 Illinois Street
EastDundee, Illinois 60116-1120
Mr. Kenneth Rinchart
1306 South Carle Avenue
Urbana, Illinois 61801
Mr. Brett M. Schmidt
800 Shanahan Court
Naperville, Illinois 60540-82 19
Mr. Trent Shepard
409 West Oregon Street
Urbana, Illinois 61801
Mr. Jeffrey Smith
Abbott Labs
1401 North Sheridan
Department 072N, Bldg. P14
North Chicago, Illinois 60064-6239
Ms. Claire St. Jean
Senior Legal Assistant
Sidley Austin Brown & Wood
10 South Dearborn Street
Chicago, Illinois 60603
Mr. Thomas Talfma
City ofGeneva
1800 South Street
Geneva, Illinois 60134
Mr. Phillip Van Ness
Webber & Thies, P.C.
202 Lincoln Square
Post Office Box 189
Urbana, Illinois 61801
James Warchall, Esq.
Sidley, Austin, Brown & Wood
One South Dearborn Street
Chicago, Illinois 60603
Mr. RobertYasinski
~402Wandering Trails Lane
Dawson, Illinois 62520
Ms. Nancy J. Rich
Katten Muchin Zavis
524 West Monroe Street
Suite 1600
Chicago, Illinois 6066 1-3693
Mr. Bruce E. Rittman
Apt. 2H
728 Noves Street
Evanston, Illinois 60201
Ms. Ruth Schoeber
702 West Washington Street
Macomb, Illinois 61455
Ms. Myrtle E. Shove
508 West California
Urbana, Illinois 61801-3908
Ms. Suzanne C. Smith
2797 C.R. 1200 North
Homer, Illinois 61849
Mr. Jeremiah D. Sullivan
604 Burkwood Court East
Urbana, Illinois 61801
Marie Tipsord, Esq.
Attorney
Pollution Control Board
100 West Randolph Street
Suite 11-500
Chicago, Illinois 60601
Mr. Matt Vernau
7823 Wildwood Acres Road
Springfield, Illinois 62707-4590
Mr. Jack Welsch
Stateside Associates
2300 Clarendon Boulevard
Suite 407
Arlington, Virginia 22201
Mr. Stanley Yonkauski
IL Department of Natural Resources
One Natural Resources Way
Springfield, Illinois 62702-1271
Ms. Patricia C. Riggins
4257 Bohm School Road
Edwardsville, Illinois 62025
Verlyn K. Rosenberger
356 East Holiday Drive
Decatur, Illinois 62526
Mr. Dennis Schwank
207 Brookside Drive
Elgin, Illinois 60123
Ms. Cindy Skrudkrud
4209 West Solon Road
Richmond, Illinois 60071
Mr. Sanjay Sofat
Illinois EPA
1021 North Grand Avenue East
Post Office Box 19276
Springfield, Illinois 62794-9276
Ms. Mary Sullivan
Assoc. Corporate Council
Ill-Am Water Company
300 North WaterWorks Drive
Post Office Box 24040
Belleville, Illinois 62223-9040
Mr. Philip Twomey
Admiral Environmental Services
2025 South Arlington Road
Suite 103
Arlington Heights, Illinois 60005
Mr. Danny Vest
GROWMARK
1701 Towanda Road
Post Office Box 2500
Bloomington, Illinois 61702-2500
Mr. Charles W. Wesselhoft
Ross and Hardies
150 North Michigan Avenue
Suite 2500
Chicago, Illinois 60610

Ms. Melanie Young
US Fish & Wildlife Service
4469 48th Avenue Court
Rock Island, Illinois 61201
Ms. Linda Zamberletti
Member Prairie Rivers Network
5074N- 1500E
Georgetown, Illinois 61846
by placing said documents in the United States Mail in Springfield,
s,postage pre aid, on March 27, 2003.
Thom
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MOTION FOR A THIRD HEARING
NOW COMES the ILLINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATORY GROUP
(“IERG”), by and through one ofits attorneys, Robert A. Messina, pursuant to 35 Ill.
Adm. Code 102,402, and hereby respectfully moves the Illinois Pollution Control Board
(“Board”) to hold a Third Hearing in the above-referenced matter. In support ofits
Motion, IERG states as follows:
1.
On January 13, 2003, the Environmental Law and Policy Center ofthe
Midwest, the Illinois Chapter ofthe Sierra Club, and the Prairie Rivers Network
(“various environmental groups”) filed a proposal to amend the public participation
procedures for NPDES permits in Part 309 ofthe Board’s regulations (“Proposal”).
2.
On February 10, 2003, Hearing Officer Marie Tipsord issued an Order
setting the First Hearing on this proposal for March 17, 2003, in Chicago, Illinois, and the
Second Hearing for April 2, 2003, in Springfield, Illinois.
3.
On March 17, 2003, the First Hearing was held. On behalf ofthe various
environmental groups, Mr. Albert Ettinger, Ms. Cindy Skrukrud, and Ms. Beth Wentzel
offered testimony in support ofthe Proposal, and Mr. Ettinger responded to questions
regarding the Proposal.

4.
Further, participants at this hearing were notified by Hearing Officer
Tipsord that the Second Hearing was scheduled for April 2, 2003, in Springfield, Illinois,
with pre-filed testimony to be received by the Board no later than March 26, 2003. The
mailbox rule would not apply. In response to concerns raised at the hearing about the
availability ofthe transcript of the First Hearing prior to March 26, 2003, Hearing Officer
Tipsord stated that the transcript likely would be available before that date. As of the
filing ofthis motion, the hearing transcript is not available.
5.
Testimony by the various environmental groups at the March 17, 2003,
hearing raised significant concerns for IERG regarding these groups’ intentions in filing
their proposal in this matter. In order to meaningfully address the various environmental
groups’ proposal, IERG must be able to review and cite from the transcript ofthe March
17, 2003, hearing in any testimony it,presents in this matter.
6.
Further, in pre-filed testimony filed with the Board on March 26, 2003,
Mr. Toby Frevert ofthe Illinois Environmental Protection Agency (“Illinois EPA”) wrote
that the Illinois EPA intended to modify the various environmental groups’ proposed
language where changes were warranted and was scheduling meetings with the other
major stakeholders to discuss in detail the elements ofthe proposal. ERG has not yet
seen these modifications or met with Mr. Frevert, but believes it is necessary to do so
before preparing detailed, meaningful testimony to the Board.
7.
Further, IERG is currently engaged in representing its members in several
pressing matterS, including the issue ofregulation ofisolated wetlands in the State of
Illinois and the issue offees for permits issued by the Illinois EPA. These matters are

taking substantial time and thus are hindering IERG’s ability to file pre-filed testimony in
this matter prior to the Second Hearing.
8.
The short time frame involved between the First Hearing and the deadline
for pre-filed testimony for the Second Hearing, the inability ofIERG and its Members to
review the First Hearing transcript or to meet with the Agency to discuss its suggested
changes, and the schedule for IERGto respond to several other pressing matters will
adversely affect IERG’s ability, and its member companies’ ability, to prepare a
meaningful response to the various environmental groups’ Proposal. There will simply
be insufficient time to receive and review the hearing transcript and Agency changes to
brief IERG’s member company representatives, to solicit their input, and to prepare
detailed testimony in response to the Agency’s answers. Also, IERG anticipates
preparing proposed revisions to the Proposal, and preparing testimony in support of the
same.
9.
IERG hereby requests that the Board schedule a Third Hearing in this
matter forthe purpose of providing sufficient time to review the First Hearing transcript,.
to prepare detailed, meaningful testimony for submittal to the Board, to meet with the
Illinois EPA to discuss its intention to modify the proposed language, and to analyze the
impact ofIllinois EPA’s proposed modifications on IERG’s member companies.
10.
In addition, there is not currently a deadline by which the Board is
required to adopt the regulations proposed in this rulemaking. As such, no material
prejudice will result if the Board grants this Motion and holds a Third Hearing in this
matter.

11.
Finally, because this proposal has not been submitted fOr First Notice,
statutory procedural requirements would preclude this proposal from being promulgated
until after the season during which thermal provisional variances traditionally have been
issued. Again; no material prejudice would result if the Board were to grant this Motion.
WHEREFORE, forthe above and foregoing reasons, the ILLINOIS
ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATORY GROUP respectfully moves the Illinois Pollution
Control Board to hold a Third Hearing in the above-referenced matter,
Respectfully,
ILLINOIS
ENVIRONMENTAL
REGULATORY GROUP,
By:
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Robert A. Messina
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Dated: March 27, 2003
Robert A. Messina
Illinois Environmental Regulatory Group.
3150 Roland Avenue
Springfield, Illinois 62703
(217) 523-4942

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