BEFORE THE POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD 
OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS 
PEOPLE OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY 
ex rel.       
) 
STATE’S ATTORNEY CHARLES GARNATI,      
) 
And THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY BOARD,       
) 
Petitioners,            
) 
v.                        
)     
PCB No. 08-93 
KIBLER DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION,        
)     
(Permit Appeal - Land) 
MARION RIDGE LANDFILL, INC., and            
) 
ILLINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION      
) 
AGENCY,                                     
) 
Respondents.          
) 
NOTICE 
John Therriault, Acting Clerk                          
Carol Webb, Hearing Officer 
Illinois Pollution Control Board                         
Illinois Pollution Control Board 
James R. Thompson Center                            
1021 North Grand Avenue East 
100 West Randolph Street, Suite 11-500                  
P.O. Box 19274 
Chicago, IL 60601                                   
Springfield, IL 62794-9274 
Stephen F. Hedinger                                  
Michael John Ruffley 
Hedinger Law Officer                                
Assistant State’s Attorney 
2601 South Fifth Street                               
200 Jefferson, Williamson County Courthouse 
Springfield, IL 62703                                
Marion, IL 62959 
Jennifer Sackett Pohlenz 
Querrey & Harrow 
75 West Jackson Boulevard 
Suite 1600 
Chicago, IL 60604-2827 
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that I have today filed with the office of the Clerk of the Pollution Control 
Board an 
REPLY TO PETITIONERS’ JOINT RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO IEPA AND 
LANDFILL’S MOTIONS TO DISMISS
, copies of which are herewith served upon you. 
Respectfully submitted, 
ILLINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, 
Respondent 
____________________________ 
Melanie A. Jarvis 
Assistant Counsel, Special Assistant Attorney General 
Division of Legal Counsel 
1021 North Grand Avenue, East P.O. Box 19276 
Springfield, Illinois 62794-9276 
217/782-5544 
217/782-9143 (TDD) 
Dated: July 8, 2008 
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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE 
I, the undersigned attorney at law, hereby certify that on July 8, 2008, I served true and correct 
copies of an 
REPLY TO PETITIONERS’ JOINT RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO IEPA AND 
LANDFILL’S MOTIONS TO DISMISS 
via the Board’s COOL System and by placing true and 
correct copies thereof in properly sealed and addressed envelopes and by depositing said sealed 
envelopes in a U.S. Mail drop box located within Springfield, Illinois, with sufficient First Class postage 
affixed thereto, upon the following named persons: 
John Therriault, Acting Clerk                      
Carol Webb, Hearing Officer 
Illinois Pollution Control Board                    
Illinois Pollution Control Board 
James R. Thompson Center                       
1021 North Grand Avenue East 
100 West Randolph Street, Suite 11-500             
P.O. Box 19274 
Chicago, IL 60601                              
Springfield, IL 62794-9274 
Stephen F. Hedinger                             
Michael John Ruffley 
Hedinger Law Officer                            
Assistant State’s Attorney 
2601 South Fifth Street                           
200 Jefferson, Williamson County Courthouse 
Springfield, IL 62703                           
Marion, IL 62959 
Jennifer Sackett Pohlenz 
Querrey & Harrow 
75 West Jackson Boulevard 
Suite 1600 
Chicago, IL 60604-2827 
ILLINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, 
Respondent 
____________________________ 
Melanie A. Jarvis 
Assistant Counsel 
Special Assistant Attorney General 
Division of Legal Counsel 
1021 North Grand Avenue, East 
P.O. Box 19276 
Springfield, Illinois 62794-9276 
217/782-5544 
217/782-9143 (TDD) 
Electronic Filing - Received, Clerk's Office, July 8, 2008
BEFORE THE POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD 
OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS 
PEOPLE OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY 
ex rel.   
) 
STATE’S ATTORNEY CHARLES GARNATI,   
) 
And THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY BOARD,    
) 
Petitioners,          
) 
v.                      
)     
PCB No. 08-93 
KIBLER DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION,    
)     
(Permit Appeal - Land) 
MARION RIDGE LANDFILL, INC., and        
) 
ILLINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION  
) 
AGENCY,                                 
) 
Respondents.        
) 
REPLY TO PETITIONERS’ JOINT RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO IEPA AND 
LANDFILL’S MOTIONS TO DISMISS 
NOW COMES Respondent, the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency (“Illinois EPA”), by 
one of its attorneys, Melanie A. Jarvis, Assistant Counsel and Special Assistant Attorney General, who 
is appearing limitedly for the purpose of attacking the sufficiency of the Petition filed in this case, and 
who, pursuant to 35 Ill. Adm. Code 101.506, hereby respectfully replies to Petitioners’ joint response to 
Respondent’s Motions to Dismiss and in support of said motion, the Illinois EPA states as follows: 
1.    
The Illinois EPA deems it necessary to reply to Petitioners’ Joint Response in Opposition 
to IEPA and Landfill’s Motions to Dismiss filed July 7, 2008. 
2.    
Initially, it is important, if not dispositive, to note that Petitioners fail to address the 
jurisdictional and standing issues raised. Apparently, Petitioners deem it appropriate to review its 
authority to seek an appeal of the issuance of an Illinois EPA permit with rational that the Office of the 
Illinois Attorney General should be allowed in Circuit Court to seek a declaratory judgment action 
against a person to develop a site. These two issues are not similar. The later case deals with whether 
the People have standing to seek relief in circuit court based upon Administrative action, not whether the 
People have standing to participate in the decision making process and seek review of the Board during 
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the administrative process. In this light, the Petitioners did not address the question of jurisdiction in 
their response. As stated in Illinois EPA’s Motion to Dismiss, the Illinois Environmental Protection Act, 
415 ILCS 5/1 et seq. (2006) (“Act”) does not allow for the third party appeal of the type of permit issued 
in this case by the Illinois EPA. The Board, like the Illinois EPA is a creature of statute and cannot 
create jurisdiction where the Act does not provide it. 
3.    
Moreover, the Petitioners appear to state that the Illinois EPA claimed that they could not 
appeal its permit decision because it was not a party to the process. Illinois EPA did not, within its 
motion, make that point, no matter how valid it is, and the Illinois EPA would reserve its right to 
present argument on this issue, should the Petitioner present further arguments relating to this point. 
4.    
The Illinois EPA has always maintained through its filing of a limited appearance that it 
was only subjecting itself to the jurisdiction of the Board for the purposes of challenging said 
jurisdiction. Further, Illinois EPA should not be prejudiced by following the rules of the Board in the 
filing of its Motion to Dismiss. The Board in adopting said rules obviously did not feel that a Petitioner 
would be prejudiced by the filing of a motion to dismiss within the 30-day period. Petitioners’ argument 
to the contrary is really the farce in this case. 
CONCLUSION 
For the reasons stated herein, the Illinois EPA respectfully requests that the Board grant the 
Illinois EPA’s Motion to Dismiss based on the Board’s lack of jurisdiction or in the alternative finding 
that Petitioners lack standing to bring this matter before the Board. 
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Respectfully submitted, 
ILLINOIS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, 
Respondent 
____________________________ 
Melanie A. Jarvis 
Assistant Counsel 
Special Assistant Attorney General 
Division of Legal Counsel 
1021 North Grand Avenue, East 
P.O. Box 19276 
Springfield, Illinois 62794-9276 
217/782-5544 
217/782-9143 (TDD) 
Dated: July 8, 2008 
This filing submitted on recycled paper. 
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